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#451442 by jubjubbird
24 Aug 2008, 19:46
Unfortunately they always seem to happen in mutiples [n]
#451463 by Sealink
25 Aug 2008, 10:11
I think I might be the nervous flyer on Friday now...
#451491 by FlyCC
25 Aug 2008, 14:02
Flying is still the safest way to go; if you're not bothered about the M25 then LHR-JFK should be a breeze! Virgin Atlantic has never had a fatal accident, has over 17 years engineering experience on the 747 and over 12 years on the A340s. Our Flight Crew must have over thousand hours experience on jet aircraft before even sitting in the right seat of one of ours.

While no figures or statistics can satisfy some people, Virgin Atlantic's are very impressive.
#451500 by Alex V
25 Aug 2008, 15:30
Originally posted by FlyCC
Flying is still the safest way to go; if you're not bothered about the M25 then LHR-JFK should be a breeze! Virgin Atlantic has never had a fatal accident, has over 17 years engineering experience on the 747 and over 12 years on the A340s. Our Flight Crew must have over thousand hours experience on jet aircraft before even sitting in the right seat of one of ours.

While no figures or statistics can satisfy some people, Virgin Atlantic's are very impressive.


Well said, flying is still got to be out there as one of the safest modes of transport, and the M25 analogy is a great example.

Cheers

Alex[y]
#451501 by moid
25 Aug 2008, 15:34
Originally posted by av_norw792
Originally posted by FlyCC
Flying is still the safest way to go; if you're not bothered about the M25 then LHR-JFK should be a breeze! Virgin Atlantic has never had a fatal accident, has over 17 years engineering experience on the 747 and over 12 years on the A340s. Our Flight Crew must have over thousand hours experience on jet aircraft before even sitting in the right seat of one of ours.

While no figures or statistics can satisfy some people, Virgin Atlantic's are very impressive.


Well said, flying is still got to be out there as one of the safest modes of transport, and the M25 analogy is a great example.

Cheers

Alex[y]


I couldn't agree more. If I had a choice of fying or driving on the M25 I would choose flying EVERY time. [:D]
#451563 by pjh
26 Aug 2008, 08:07
I wonder how many people will be put off flying by this incident (a few ear problems) yet will happily launch themselves on the motorway network despite this incident

Paul
#451568 by willd
26 Aug 2008, 10:26
Very sad with regards to the incident in the CIS over the weekend.
#451589 by Sealink
26 Aug 2008, 12:01
I know all this. The most dangerous part of the journey is getting to the airport...
#451629 by mike-smashing
26 Aug 2008, 15:19
Originally posted by Sealink
I know all this. The most dangerous part of the journey is getting to the airport...


I remember Dennis Fitch, the DC10 Instructor who played a critical role in minimising the fatalities in the United 232 accident, saying to a TV interviewer something along the lines of 'I have more chance of being killed by the other people on the road in the 20 minute drive to work, than there is once I'm in the air. We're professionals up there, we know what each of our jobs is.'

I think Captain Fitch put it very nicely. He recovered and returned to flying at UA. I had the pleasure of flying with this living legend shortly before he retired. I remember asking one of the cabin crew 'Is that 'the' Capt Fitch?'. 'Yes', came the reply.

We can take some reassurance in the aviation industry having one of the best accident investigation regimes in existence, and a 'never again' attitude to eliminating the various links in the chain which can lead to an accident.

Mike
#451634 by nowt ont clock
26 Aug 2008, 16:07
Originally posted by mike-smashing
Originally posted by Sealink
I know all this. The most dangerous part of the journey is getting to the airport...


I remember Dennis Fitch, the DC10 Instructor who played a critical role in minimising the fatalities in the United 232 accident, saying to a TV interviewer something along the lines of 'I have more chance of being killed by the other people on the road in the 20 minute drive to work, than there is once I'm in the air. We're professionals up there, we know what each of our jobs is.'

I think Captain Fitch put it very nicely. He recovered and returned to flying at UA. I had the pleasure of flying with this living legend shortly before he retired. I remember asking one of the cabin crew 'Is that 'the' Capt Fitch?'. 'Yes', came the reply.

We can take some reassurance in the aviation industry having one of the best accident investigation regimes in existence, and a 'never again' attitude to eliminating the various links in the chain which can lead to an accident.

Mike


That guy is a living legend! So many people that were on that flight owe their lives directly to him. I know there were others in the cockpit that day, including the Pilot In Command but Denny Fitch was the guy who was effectively 'steering' the plane using assymetric thrust.He still has pangs of survivor guilt but from where I am standing, the guy deserves a medal! I am led to believe that susequently, various pilots have tried to achieve in the sim what he did that day and not one could make the airport.
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