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#255749 by pjh
26 Aug 2008, 07:52
Report on BBC

Slightly o/t, but does anyone else find the increasing prevelance of 'Were you affected ? Send us your comments' smacks of lazy journalism ?

Paul

(edited to correct hyperlink)
#451571 by Sealink
26 Aug 2008, 10:43
I read that story, and Ryanair have softened.
- The transferred people to a hotel. A HOTEL!
- They flew another aircraft from Stansted!
- Other passengers who don't want to fly will be offered a coach transfer instead!

Michael O'Leary must be seething.

(Joking aside, given his feelings about aircraft safety I bet he really is)
#451588 by Sealink
26 Aug 2008, 11:53
*BaDUM TISCH!*
#451612 by Scorpio
26 Aug 2008, 13:27
I think in the circumstances the flight deck did the right thing.Normally the aircraft would descend immediately to 10,000 ft but everthing i have heard in the news is text book.

Well done on all the crew for a safe landing.
#451630 by Darren Wheeler
26 Aug 2008, 15:21
It makes me laugh with some of the pax comments. 'no-one immediatly told us what was happening' Well no &*$@ Sherlock. The pilots and the CC would have been a tad busy at the time you know, making sure they were getting the plane down and strapping in themselves.

Another 168 pax who will pay a lot more attention to the safety briefing in the future.
#451639 by honey lamb
26 Aug 2008, 16:20
The other comments I liked were 'No-one told us what to do with the oxygen mask' (guess who was reading/chatting/doing anything but listening during the safety briefing) and 'The staff didn't come around to check if we had our oxygen masks on properly' [:0] How were they supposed to breathe?

It reminds me of the time the plane ran off the end of the runway in Toronto and passengers complained that the oxygen masks didn't come down. Yeah, right. You'd rather sit there sucking at unnecessary oxygen than getting the h*ll out of the plane in case it goes up in smoke?
#451642 by daharris
26 Aug 2008, 16:31
A slightly more balanced view of the event from The Times
#451646 by Scorpio
26 Aug 2008, 16:45
Originally posted by honey lamb
The other comments I liked were 'No-one told us what to do with the oxygen mask' (guess who was reading/chatting/doing anything but listening during the safety briefing) and 'The staff didn't come around to check if we had our oxygen masks on properly' [:0] How were they supposed to breathe?

It reminds me of the time the plane ran off the end of the runway in Toronto and passengers complained that the oxygen masks didn't come down. Yeah, right. You'd rather sit there sucking at unnecessary oxygen than getting the h*ll out of the plane in case it goes up in smoke?



So true Honeylamb![^]

Hopefully they will in the future pay attention as what else do they think the reason for cc to stand in the aisles with the maunal demo kit,pointing to your nearest exits, how to use an oxygen mask and of course how to use a life jacket.
#452056 by VS075
29 Aug 2008, 00:26
Originally posted by Scorpio
I think in the circumstances the flight deck did the right thing.Normally the aircraft would descend immediately to 10,000 ft but everthing i have heard in the news is text book.

Well done on all the crew for a safe landing.


When a plane loses pressurisation it is standard procedure to immediately descend to 10,000ft as the air at that level is breathable, then make an emergency landing at the nearest airport.

Reading articles on the web about how some people couldn't get their oxygen masks to work has left me in two minds over why it was apparently so. Was there a fault in the system, or (more likely) passengers weren't paying attention to the safety briefing when they first boarded?

I think I'll leave that one to the investigators, but glad that nobody was seriously hurt in the incident, and that is the main thing above all.
#452060 by Decker
29 Aug 2008, 00:42
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#452066 by mike-smashing
29 Aug 2008, 00:56
I wonder if, in some cases, the pax using the mask didn't pull it down hard enough to open the oxygen feed? I guess because none reportedly suffered from hypoxia this wasn't the case, but you never know.

I'm not sure about the equipment on the 737-800, but on many aircraft, you have to pull the mask down hard enough to pop open a valve so that oxygen is admitted to the tube feeding the mask.

Many safety briefings highlight the need to pull the mask sharply downward before donning it.

I remember on the older BA aircraft, you pulled a red streamer which pulled out some sort of pin or clip to start the oxygen to that particular mask.

Mike
#452068 by Scrooge
29 Aug 2008, 00:58
Well if we are going to get technical 13k feet will do the job.
#452069 by Darren Wheeler
29 Aug 2008, 01:06
8,000ft is a bit higher than the Grand Canyon South Rim. Unless you have respiratory problems, most people will breathe without any ill-effects, especially as you will be sat still.
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