#258235 by roadrunner
02 Mar 2009, 02:52
It's a long, long flight from Boston to LAX--especially if it's the day before Virgin America offer nonstops and you have chosen to fly Southwest because they have what is possibly the last great baggage allowance in America and you are bringing a red wagon to New Zealand via Los Angeles. No one bats an eyelash at check-in re red wagon so that's good (when I ask after signing luggage waiver if the box will arrive okay, the agent says, 'How would I know--I'm not flying with it') but what I don't figure on is the mystery 'stop' in Phoenix which is totally not on my trip itinerary but explains why it takes 9 1/2 leg scrunching hours to get to LA. Actually for a while I think I am on the wrong flight because none of the cabin crew ever mention that the plane is merely emptying itself in Phoenix before stumbling into LA. They in fact, tell us it is a destination finale--which makes the eight of us going on just a tad nervous.

First--Southwest is friendly, the seats leg room is not entirely awful but the plane doesn't actually work-- making us all have to leg it to make our connection in Baltimore. Secondly--no one on any leg mentions food--for sale or otherwise. We can have soda or water or peanuts--but no food. Passengers start sharing Dentyne and cheese sticks from the bottoms of purses and briefcases. It's a long nine plus hours.

Once in LA it's a quick trundle to T1 and Air New Zealand but a mystery to find the departures elevator required for carrying a red wagon( a nice Chilean national escorts me as none of the platform ground staff have a clue). NZ checks it in as well and hands- free I eye those checking in at Business class to see if any would like to invite me to the lounge but they look like the cruise set and unlikely to feel neighborly so I hang out in the one bar near the gate for a drink and then in the gate itself next to the teenaged girls writing journals in large felt tipped marker and four small children whose parents are soundly napping.

I am at the very back of the 744 three seat plane section (62) with two nice people and we quickly work out a toilet run scenario which works well for us. Dinner is filling (surprisingly) and the two thimbles of wine okay but I am not looked on as popular when I request a third and lock myself away with headset for remainder of 12 plus hour journey which has the seatbelt sign on for most of it. I make the mistake of watching Boy in Striped Pajamas and sit bolt upright remainder of flight. Breakfast is v tasty omelette and tea and when we at last roll in at low tide to Auckland I am more than ready to get off. Am able to walk--just as impossible to circuit plane enroute due to things in aisles.

Immigration is easy--baggage check is not and my tight connection getting tighter I have to run (still pushing the box with the red wagon) following the blue/white line to the 'twelve' minute walk/ run domestic terminal to catch New Plymouth shuttle which is attended by fourteen year old cabin staff. Very casual domestic NZ--no security at all--no one hates New Zealand (except maybe Australia rugby?).

query--what would happen if economy airlines had leg rests -- less dvt risk and the majority of passengers saying, 'Aaaaaah'? NZ PE looked tatty--and totally not worth the huge extra fare--except for the leg rests. After all--it's down back pays the bills.

cheers,

RR
#709072 by Sealink
02 Mar 2009, 03:14
Very interesting read. What's a red wagon?
#709087 by DarkAuror
02 Mar 2009, 11:10
Thanks for the great TR![y]
#709099 by slinky09
02 Mar 2009, 13:40
Ouch, ouch and ouch. Thanks for the TR but I think I'd rather eat glass than do the same ... but it sounds worth it for the time you had in NZ?
#709107 by HighFlyer
02 Mar 2009, 14:26
Nice trip report, though I dont agree with it being the back of the bus that pays for the flight, its the premium seats (and cargo) that pay for a flight.

I thought ANZ had upgraded all of their cabins? Or was it just J & W?

Thanks,
Sarah
#709111 by roadrunner
02 Mar 2009, 15:00
quote:Originally posted by Sealink
Very interesting read. What's a red wagon?


Plastic? Has wheels? Put children in and pull? Actually it is apparently also code name for a caravan in NZ--try that one on for confusion at baggage check- in.

cheers,
RR
#709115 by roadrunner
02 Mar 2009, 15:06
quote:Originally posted by HighFlyer
Nice trip report, though I dont agree with it being the back of the bus that pays for the flight, its the premium seats (and cargo) that pay for a flight.

I thought ANZ had upgraded all of their cabins? Or was it just J & W?

Thanks,
Sarah


Re: who pays--I've always wondered about that Sarah--how many first class seats are actually full fare versus mileage? I know PE is a bit more lucrative than Y but PE on NZ seems to be stretch re cost that leaves many seats vacant.
Re: seat upgrades--I'd read that the whole fleet was upgraded as well but not apparent the flights I was on.
#709124 by HighFlyer
02 Mar 2009, 15:49
Ah, but ANZ do not have First, they have J and W like VS, and both markets are serious bread and butter churners for most airlines now.

I havent flown ANZ for years but I would really like to give them a go now, especially after reading Maike's many reports from J & W where they certainly seemed to give VS a run for their money.

Thanks,
Sarah
#709134 by roadrunner
02 Mar 2009, 18:11
quote:Originally posted by HighFlyer
Ah, but ANZ do not have First, they have J and W like VS, and both markets are serious bread and butter churners for most airlines now.

I havent flown ANZ for years but I would really like to give them a go now, especially after reading Maike's many reports from J & W where they certainly seemed to give VS a run for their money.

Thanks,
Sarah


Ah--well if upfront is the bread and butter, that would explain why down back is the chopped liver. Re flying J using VS miles--best of luck. Have been unable to find even a tiny chink in that armor even when booking off/off/off season. I wonder sometimes if VS even have access to those reward seats on any regular basis..especially as NZ are eager to award (understandably) easy upgrades to their Airpoints members and Star Alliance partners. VS seem to come fairly well down any priority list. Looks like Business out and PE back next trip.


cheers,
RR
#709141 by Scrooge
02 Mar 2009, 19:23
quote:Originally posted by roadrunner
quote:Originally posted by HighFlyer
Ah, but ANZ do not have First, they have J and W like VS, and both markets are serious bread and butter churners for most airlines now.

I havent flown ANZ for years but I would really like to give them a go now, especially after reading Maike's many reports from J & W where they certainly seemed to give VS a run for their money.

Thanks,
Sarah


Ah--well if upfront is the bread and butter, that would explain why down back is the chopped liver. Re flying J using VS miles--best of luck. Have been unable to find even a tiny chink in that armor even when booking off/off/off season. I wonder sometimes if VS even have access to those reward seats on any regular basis..especially as NZ are eager to award (understandably) easy upgrades to their Airpoints members and Star Alliance partners. VS seem to come fairly well down any priority list. Looks like Business out and PE back next trip.


cheers,
RR


The order of revenue is J,W,Cargo then Y for airlines that do not offer F

It is J,W,F,cargo and Y for those that do, depending on layouts of course.

I am surprised that WN did not give you a snack box, though they don't do food, they do give out snack boxes which are pretty good on flights over a certain time.
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