quote:Originally posted by slinky09
quote:Originally posted by preiffer
There are a billion allergies out there which aren't catered for. I can only imagine the fun to be had in Upper if I announced I had a fatal allergy to champagne....
I do tend to agree with the general point, however you'd be safe re. the champagne as VS 'forget' to load more than a bottle or two on half of flights, so the desperate sippers could go into a loo with a straw?
Must be too much sun I read desperate sniffers going into the loos with a straw[:w]
quote:Originally posted by narikin
the more serious point in all this is that once people (like us) begin to realise that the CC are telling fibs about 'special passengers' being on board, then they start to take what CC say with a pinch of salt.
To be clear, narikin, I do not for a second believe the crew 'make it up' - and I have no doubt there WAS someone with a nut allergy onboard last night. My issue is more the 'so what?' voice I have running round my head each and every time I hear those words announced.
You do raise a relevant point though - and one which I've seen countless Americans demonstrate time and time again (sorry to generalise, but in MY experience, it's typically an American passenger consistently displaying such behaviours). You know, when they don't *believe* the captain has put the fasten seat belt sign on for a reason - or indeed, that the sign applies to everyone EXCEPT (bump, hits head on overhead bin or another passenger) - THEM... [V][ii]
the more serious point in all this is that once people (like us) begin to realise that the CC are telling fibs about 'special passengers' being on board, then they start to take what CC say with a pinch of salt.
To be clear, narikin, I do not for a second believe the crew 'make it up' - and I have no doubt there WAS someone with a nut allergy onboard last night. My issue is more the 'so what?' voice I have running round my head each and every time I hear those words announced.
You do raise a relevant point though - and one which I've seen countless Americans demonstrate time and time again (sorry to generalise, but in MY experience, it's typically an American passenger consistently displaying such behaviours). You know, when they don't *believe* the captain has put the fasten seat belt sign on for a reason - or indeed, that the sign applies to everyone EXCEPT (bump, hits head on overhead bin or another passenger) - THEM... [V][ii]
having checked in many a busy flight I can garantuee (I do apologise I can't spell!) there will be at least one passenger with a nut allergy of some kind, so I really doubt the crew are making it up. If they do have an allergy they should have an epi pen/anti hystamines (again, spelling!) with them if they know they have this allergy and I do believe most people do.
what gets me is it's usually children that have this allergy and it always makes me wonder if it's something about the generation, I don't personally know anyone with such an allergy and god help me if I couldn't eat a toblerone once in a while!
what gets me is it's usually children that have this allergy and it always makes me wonder if it's something about the generation, I don't personally know anyone with such an allergy and god help me if I couldn't eat a toblerone once in a while!
Seems to often be the children who are wrapped in cotton wool from birth and the parents over sterilise their enviroment so the children dont build up a basic immune system to illness and allergies. Probably why 25% of children who have a nut allergy then grow out of it as they get older. Probably why is more common these days...
I have a friend who was diagnosed with a peanut allergy in later years, it has nearly taken his life on several occasions; on two occasions he was taken by air ambulance to the nearest A&E. Since diagnosis he now carries a syringe with some medication, I know not what, it may even be adrenaline. He still has to be very careful as it only takes the smallest amount to start him off.
The fear on board an aircraft would be for cross contamination, probably less likely on board than in a restaurant kitchen but obviously not a risk some airlines are willing to take.
The fear on board an aircraft would be for cross contamination, probably less likely on board than in a restaurant kitchen but obviously not a risk some airlines are willing to take.
Can I just confirm that we certainly dont 'make it up' if we make a peanut announcement. What would be the point of that? We dont do it for fun! At our briefing we get medical advice sent from our special assistance department, and if the form reads 'please make the nut-allergy announcement' then we make it - simple as. Better safe than sorry.
And I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the Tanqueray No. 10 Gin is being removed from flights as per 3rd June and replaced with Akvinta Vodka. Maybe too many people were allergic to it? lol
And I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the Tanqueray No. 10 Gin is being removed from flights as per 3rd June and replaced with Akvinta Vodka. Maybe too many people were allergic to it? lol
quote:Originally posted by virginboy747
And I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the Tanqueray No. 10 Gin is being removed from flights as per 3rd June and replaced with Akvinta Vodka. Maybe too many people were allergic to it? lol
Whaaaaaat!!!!!!! [:0][:0][:0][:0][:0]
Don't tell me that as well as having to bring on board limes, we also have to bring on board gin?
And why replace gin with vodka? I don't drink vodka [V]
And I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the Tanqueray No. 10 Gin is being removed from flights as per 3rd June and replaced with Akvinta Vodka. Maybe too many people were allergic to it? lol
Whaaaaaat!!!!!!! [:0][:0][:0][:0][:0]
Don't tell me that as well as having to bring on board limes, we also have to bring on board gin?
And why replace gin with vodka? I don't drink vodka [V]
Interesting from a legal point of view.
We owe each other a duty of care, based upon the 'reasonable man'.
If we are not told there is an allergy sufferer on board,then we can eat nuts with impunity. Once alerted to the fact that there is an allergy sufferer on board, we have to be a bit more careful. Are they near us? Might they touch somewhere where our be-nutted hands have been?
Await the first court case.
Applying this logic elsewhere............things go crazy! What about buses, trains, taxis, hotel rooms, theatres, cinemas.........
We owe each other a duty of care, based upon the 'reasonable man'.
If we are not told there is an allergy sufferer on board,then we can eat nuts with impunity. Once alerted to the fact that there is an allergy sufferer on board, we have to be a bit more careful. Are they near us? Might they touch somewhere where our be-nutted hands have been?
Await the first court case.
Applying this logic elsewhere............things go crazy! What about buses, trains, taxis, hotel rooms, theatres, cinemas.........
Stephen.
That would apply to the company and it's employees. No such restriction on customers.
What about supermarkets. Do the nut-bearing products have to go on the top shelf?
'Copy of Razzle and a bag dry roasted please'
What about supermarkets. Do the nut-bearing products have to go on the top shelf?
'Copy of Razzle and a bag dry roasted please'
Thanks
Darren
Darren
quote:Originally posted by virginboy747
=And I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the Tanqueray No. 10 Gin is being removed from flights as per 3rd June and replaced with Akvinta Vodka.
What?? [:o] [:o]
Replacing Gin with Vodka? Do VS not read these boards? This is one cut that will not go down very well with many V-Flyers.
Thanks,
Sarah
=And I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the Tanqueray No. 10 Gin is being removed from flights as per 3rd June and replaced with Akvinta Vodka.
What?? [:o] [:o]
Replacing Gin with Vodka? Do VS not read these boards? This is one cut that will not go down very well with many V-Flyers.
Thanks,
Sarah
quote:Originally posted by Jacki
If they take T10 off the plane, will it also go from the CH?
As I recall, Ten has been gone from the CH for a long time now.
Mike
If they take T10 off the plane, will it also go from the CH?
As I recall, Ten has been gone from the CH for a long time now.
Mike
On 4 out of my last 5 flights to the US, the cabin crew have announced that there is a nut allergy sufferer on board, so no nut products were to be opened / eaten etc.
The last time this happened, I thought it was getting a bit bizarre, so I asked who had the nut allergy. According to one crewmember it was a young child. According to another it was a woman in Premium Economy. Very suspicious!
Then, I was reading trip reports on v-flyer and guess what, nut allergies!!!
My suspicion is that this might actually be a 'lie' which is used for some reason, but I can't figure out what. Any ideas?
The last time this happened, I thought it was getting a bit bizarre, so I asked who had the nut allergy. According to one crewmember it was a young child. According to another it was a woman in Premium Economy. Very suspicious!
Then, I was reading trip reports on v-flyer and guess what, nut allergies!!!
My suspicion is that this might actually be a 'lie' which is used for some reason, but I can't figure out what. Any ideas?
This is a very emotive subject. So, rather than go over old ground, yet again, I have merged the new topic into the old one.
Nick
Nick
Thanks Nick. (I searched for 'allergy' but it did not show in subjects...)
I can also believe it stirs up emotions - especially reading the posts.
'One in 200 Americans has a peanut or nut allergy, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease. Between 50 and 100 people die in the United States each year from severe allergic reactions to peanuts. One study from the University of California-Davis, School of Medicine revealed that kisses caused 5 percent of all peanut reactions. '
I actually have a tree nut allergy but not peanuts or cashews (ground nuts) but I take the risk of being potentially near nuts. If 0.5% (corrected from my error of 2%) of Americans have nut allergiesm then only 25 in 100 VS flights (400 seaters) will NOT have a nut allergy person on board so perhaps the nut ban should be permanent.
I can also believe it stirs up emotions - especially reading the posts.
'One in 200 Americans has a peanut or nut allergy, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease. Between 50 and 100 people die in the United States each year from severe allergic reactions to peanuts. One study from the University of California-Davis, School of Medicine revealed that kisses caused 5 percent of all peanut reactions. '
I actually have a tree nut allergy but not peanuts or cashews (ground nuts) but I take the risk of being potentially near nuts. If 0.5% (corrected from my error of 2%) of Americans have nut allergiesm then only 25 in 100 VS flights (400 seaters) will NOT have a nut allergy person on board so perhaps the nut ban should be permanent.
quote:Originally posted by Tinkerbelle
Back to the topic of peanuts: As found on A.net
Ooops, its been removed.. [:I]
Back to the topic of peanuts: As found on A.net
Ooops, its been removed.. [:I]
NH, Hobbit Land.
quote:Originally posted by rayand
On 4 out of my last 5 flights to the US, the cabin crew have announced that there is a nut allergy sufferer on board, so no nut products were to be opened / eaten etc.
The last time this happened, I thought it was getting a bit bizarre, so I asked who had the nut allergy. According to one crewmember it was a young child. According to another it was a woman in Premium Economy. Very suspicious!
Then, I was reading trip reports on v-flyer and guess what, nut allergies!!!
My suspicion is that this might actually be a 'lie' which is used for some reason, but I can't figure out what. Any ideas?
It was probably a young child AND a woman in PE! checking in a typical flight to MCO (as I do) I myself will only check in a small percentage of the PAX however the amount of nut allergy suffers out of this small amount is quite staggering! some make a point of mentioning it and say they have medication with them etc others choose not to kick up so much of a fuss.
Personally unless it's a very serious 'if they are so much of in 30ft of any sort of nuts it will kill them' sort of allergy fair enough, otherwise I think it's just abit over the top, like has been said before about nuts being in shops or people eating them in buses/trains etc I wouldn't personally worry too much! [:w]
On 4 out of my last 5 flights to the US, the cabin crew have announced that there is a nut allergy sufferer on board, so no nut products were to be opened / eaten etc.
The last time this happened, I thought it was getting a bit bizarre, so I asked who had the nut allergy. According to one crewmember it was a young child. According to another it was a woman in Premium Economy. Very suspicious!
Then, I was reading trip reports on v-flyer and guess what, nut allergies!!!
My suspicion is that this might actually be a 'lie' which is used for some reason, but I can't figure out what. Any ideas?
It was probably a young child AND a woman in PE! checking in a typical flight to MCO (as I do) I myself will only check in a small percentage of the PAX however the amount of nut allergy suffers out of this small amount is quite staggering! some make a point of mentioning it and say they have medication with them etc others choose not to kick up so much of a fuss.
Personally unless it's a very serious 'if they are so much of in 30ft of any sort of nuts it will kill them' sort of allergy fair enough, otherwise I think it's just abit over the top, like has been said before about nuts being in shops or people eating them in buses/trains etc I wouldn't personally worry too much! [:w]
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