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#260325 by David
21 Aug 2009, 11:05
Whilst I am very weary about starting this thread and in particular how in could degenerate very quickly, I thought you might be interested in hearing the media coverage from the US side of the pond.

I remember the night of the tragedy very well, Lockerbie is only an hour or two from us and a lot of local people were involved in the events, so I was interested in the outcome of yesterdays decsion which was due to be broadcast as we were taking off from Gatwick.

I am assuming its pretty much front page today in most of our newspapers as well as headline news on the web and TV.

On arriving at the HGV last night, I clicked away till I found some news which wasn't local, eventually settling on CNN.

This 'breaking' news was around 8th or 9th in the bulletin and was covered by two sentences - 'The Scottish Government has released the Lockerbie bomber today. Many of the victims familys are very upset by this decision.' - big bit of reporting !

Seems a little different to the reaction our news is reporting [:?]

David

(for the record, I am not particularly into politics and don't really agree with the concept of the Scottish Government tier, let alone the SNP and their politics, and I don't agree with the decision they have made)
#723490 by Bill S
21 Aug 2009, 11:53
Some of the 'lighter' debris landed around our home so I also remember it.
In my mind I can still see the trees with parts hanging in them.

Some thoughts:
As can be seen from Megrahi's return, one man's terrorist is another's heroic freedom fighter.
Particularly when it is State sponsored terrorism, is it the State that should be held accountable or the individual?

We have seen many released in Northern Ireland - indeed [those that many believe are] former terrorists becoming government ministers. Is it not somewhat hypocritical to complain about the release of this guy, yet welcome the changes we have seen in NI?
#723499 by Darren Wheeler
21 Aug 2009, 13:44
Justice must be tempered with mercy othwise it is vengance.
#727441 by erii
11 Oct 2009, 20:04
The whole history of the world is summed up in the fact that, when nations are strong, they are not always just, and when they wish to be just, they are no longer strong.

Winston Churchill
#727442 by erii
11 Oct 2009, 20:07
I sat next to a family during the service at Syracuse University. Have you ever heard a grown man wail. I mean a real wail. it will stay with you for ever.
#727444 by Decker
11 Oct 2009, 22:49
Well as Private Eye has been pointing out for years the original trial was a travesty as even some of the victim's families have come to believe. The likelihood of the released guy actually having anything to do with it is extremely small...
#727445 by Decker
11 Oct 2009, 22:51
quote:Originally posted by erii
I sat next to a family during the service at Syracuse University. Have you ever heard a grown man wail. I mean a real wail. it will stay with you for ever.


OK sorry you've lost me. People wail when upset. How does this help to ascertain guilt or innocence?
#727497 by Ian
12 Oct 2009, 17:38
I, too, have only read about Megrahi and the possibility of his innocence, in Private Eye. So I have insufficient information to form an opinion.
But, noting the supposed American ire at his release I once again looked up Lt. William Calley on wikipedia. Interesting reading.
#727501 by Decker
12 Oct 2009, 18:56
Private Eye's generally enough for me [:)]
#727503 by Nottingham Nick
12 Oct 2009, 19:14
quote:Originally posted by Decker
Private Eye's generally enough for me [:)]


Essential reading for everyone who comes into day to day contact with any form of government - local or national, the medical profession, any part of the legal profession and reads newspapers.

They aren't always right, and are often guilty of mounting crusades on flimsy evidence, BUT they do give an alternative perspective to the view we are force fed by Wapping, the Beeb, the Daily Hate et al. thereby by enabling alternative opinions. [;)]

With regards to the Lockerbie affair, I agree with a lot of points already made, and would add - it is like the Kennedy Assassination, and many, many other topics. The truth is out there somewhere, but we have heard so many versions of the truth - a lot of which have been discredited - that we probably won't ever know the real story.

Nick
Virgin Atlantic

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