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#734371 by Bill S
14 Jan 2010, 10:11
quote:Originally posted by Scrooge
The 350 is not a 'small' plane, well neither is the 330, but the 350 is the next size up.

In the sub 5000nm routes it's pretty hard to beat a 330 for costs and revenue.

And they need to 'fit' with the Dream [;)]
#734518 by flyerdavid
16 Jan 2010, 15:50
quote:Originally posted by JoeyVS
As far as im aware the a330s are going to LGW for leaner routes and better yields. The A380 orders cannot be canceled without penalties they are still on order for 2014 unless they are converted to another airbus order. I believe the 787s are for heathrow to replace the 340 300s. Time will tell however it could all change!


If this is true it would be amazing! Thinking of going to BGI in June 2011 - new A330 and new IFE perhaps [}:)]

What would happen to all the LGW 744's though?
#734532 by Scrooge
16 Jan 2010, 22:08
That's the big question, maybe dedicated to the LGW/MAN- MCo route.
#734562 by Bill S
17 Jan 2010, 11:30
quote:Originally posted by flyerdavid
What would happen to all the LGW 744's though?

quote:Originally posted by Scrooge
That's the big question, maybe dedicated to the LGW/MAN- MCo route.

B747s are very popular on the MCO route - a differentiator from the charters. One of the reasons for Travel City popularity.
They also run at very high capacity factor - very frequently full - and very good revenues near holiday times.
It seems likely that GLA will see an increase in traffic.
The Dollar rate has not changed as bad as the Euro so still large numbers visiting the Mouse.
Virgin seem to get away with running the LGW/MAN routes with much lower investment and costs than the LHR.
Unlike LHR - NY etc there is no advantage in service frequency on the B&S routes.

It would not make much sense to cut capacity (aircraft size) on these routes and there would be a strong argument to increase - the most economical way for that would be A380s configured for large numbers.

And what would an A380 into Orlando do for the Virgin image?
#734564 by Scrooge
17 Jan 2010, 11:42
It would be good, however in a high Y configuration would the extra expense of a new 388 be worth it over a leased 744 ?
#734628 by Denzil
17 Jan 2010, 22:16
Do you think for a second VS are buying the A380's, they'll be leased. Talking of leasing, i believe the LGW B774 lease has just been renegotiated.
#734632 by David
17 Jan 2010, 22:40
quote:Originally posted by Denzil
Talking of leasing, i believe the LGW B774 lease has just been renegotiated.


Extending or reducing lease ?

thanks

David
#734636 by Scrooge
17 Jan 2010, 23:21
Probably reducing the payments, there is very little demand for 744's right now.
#734715 by Denzil
18 Jan 2010, 19:46
Reducing costs, plenty of nice B744 at VCV!!!!
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