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#262365 by DarkAuror
18 Feb 2010, 16:40
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After a wonderful week in Las Vegas where the highlights included;

Saturday We gambled in New York, New York. As this is our 3rd visit, we had our traditional meal at Gonzalez Y Gonzalez. We tried to stay up as long as possible.[|)]

Sunday We ate at the Village Buffet in Paris and then went to the Superbowl Tailgate Party (Who Dat?[y]) at the Burger Joint in the Flamingo where the special guest was ex-Eagles QB Randall Cunningham.[oo]




Mrs DA got her birthday present from Tiffanys. We gambled in Caesars Palace, the Flamingo, Bills, Ballys and Paris.

Monday We checked in to the Bellagio and was amazed with the room[oo].




Ate at the Grand Lux Caf, watched the very good Jersey Boys and gambled all at Palazzo. We also gambled in the Venetian and Bellagio.

Tuesday Mrs DAs birthday, we ate at the Bellagio Buffet, went to the Wynn and the Fashion Mall. In the evening we ate at Mon Ami Gabi (6 years previously, we had our wedding dinner there), Mrs DA received a birthday profiterole dessert complete with candle[y]. Finally we gambled at Paris and Bellagio.



Wednesday Checked out of the Bellagio and picked up the hire car. Went to The Galleria at Sunset for shopping for Mrs DA and to buy softball/baseball equipment for me for next season[:w]. We also went to the Premium Outlets and Meadows Mall.

Thursday Drove to the M Resort, south of Las Vegas. I was entering one of the daily Poker tournaments while Mrs DA went to the spa. I went out 19th out of 42 players which I thought wasnt too bad for my first non online tournament while Mrs DA never got round to the Spa as she got her biggest win of the holiday. We went shopping at the Town Square, where is a store with a huge choice of guitars and accessories. In the evening we went to Monte Carlo and watched the UNLV basketball team play whilst trying out the micro brewed beers.

Friday Went to Mandalay Bay, Excalibur, NYNY and MGM Grand. We had dinner in Margaritaville. Went to the Fireside Lounge for a drink and then down to the Mirage to watch Love. This was our first Cirque de Soleil show and we were blown away by it. The acrobatics and choreography in time with the Beatles music was fantastic.[y]

All too soon our holiday was nearing to the end. On Saturday we finished our packing including our newly acquired suitcase and left the luggage at the front desk of the hotel. Mrs DA was suffering from sinusitis and was struggling. We wandered over to the Miracle Mile to have a spot of brunch at the Oyster Bay. I went for the egg, cheese and bacon bagel with a side order of sausages while Mrs DA went for the pancakes with maple syrup. Afterwards, we had a stroll round the Miracle Mile and went back to the hotel to wait for the shuttle pickup.

The shuttle arrived 1.15pm and there was just 4 other pax on the bus. The journey to McCarran took about 15 mins and very soon we were standing outside Terminal 2. We checked in the day before and I had already known we were on another LHR plane as the seat assignments were 31K & H. Completely forgot to ask about the exit row seats which proved to be mistake later. We dropped the bags off and went through security and our first experience with body scanners.

As previous posters have mentioned, there is fairly little to do once youre airside so we parked ourselves at the gate and took it in turns to look at the small duty free shop and newsagents. Whilst we were waiting, Lady Penelope taxied in and the new arrivals to the wonders of Las Vegas were offloaded. I played NFL2009 on the DS during the wait and eventually boarding took place.

We settled in to our seats and accepted the sparkling wine and started to take in our surroundings. We were getting comfortable when a 6ft 4 man who was built like a wrestler and his partner sat in front of us. We were a little concern when the mans seat who was in front of Mrs DA moved back a little under his weight.[:0]

We pushed back around 4.20 and after a longish taxi we took off 4.35. As soon as the seatbelts signs went the couple both reclined their seats back. The mans seat crashed to Mrs DAs knees causing her to yelp in pain.[:0] We looked at each in shock and the man in front vaguely sensed there was something wrong and he looked at me and said OK. He said it as more as a statement and not as a question and he should asking Mrs DA and not me. Before I reply, he turned round and started to watch his IFE.[:(!] It was clear he was not going to be considerate and I now wished I remembered to ask about the exit row seats during the bag drop.[B)] There was some spare seats in the middle rows next to the galley (are those the bulk head seats?), Mrs DA moved across after asking the CC. The CC was very sympathetic and made sure Mrs DA was very comfortable.

Once she was settled, I started to watch Astro Boy after asking the mans partner to move her seat up so I could see the screen which she did reluctantly and with some huffing. The dinner service was served and I had the Caesar salad, lamb curry, strawberry cheesecake washed down with red wine and followed with cheese and biscuits. I declined the offer of a Baileys or brandy and finished watching the film. As a fan of anime and manga, this version of Astro Boy was good but still cant beat the original series. I got myself ready to have a snooze, even scrambling out with difficulty out of my seat because of the reclined seat in front. When I returned to my seat, I made the point of asking the passenger behind if it was OK to recline my seat back and he was OK with it.

I dont normally sleep that well on planes but after 5 hours[|)] I was getting nudged by Mrs DA informing that they were about to start the breakfast run. I had the cheese and egg roll/bagel which I was thought was nice with the granola bar and black coffee. An announcement was made that we had 10 mins before the seatbelt signs are switched on. Everyone got themselves ready and the couple finally moved their seats upright after being told. Mrs DA rejoined me in her original seat and the seatbelt signs came on with 30 mins to ETA. There was a lot of cloud cover so unable to see the ground but it felt like we were not circling. On final approach, we eventually saw the ground a minute or two before landing. We landed 10.20 and taxied for a while to gate 32 and disembarked 5 mins later.

After a walk to immigration, we in a queue due a gentleman, who had a very battered passport with pages falling out, was being scrutinised. Once he produced some documentation he was on his way, few minutes later we followed him to luggage reclaim. Two of our cases were collected off the belt quickly the third case appeared a long time after. This was because it hadnt been labelled up PE unlike the others.[n]

We went through customs and I started to try and contact the Manor Meet and Greet people. After the 14th attempt, I managed to get through, they said the car will be on it way and to meet at the pick-up point. Unfortunately, it didnt appear until 40 mins later, the traffic was horrendous but even so, to pay for this service and for them to take so long was not best advertisement to use them again[n] compared to the excellent meet and greet service I had from Purple Parking when I flew from LHR last year.

Overall, we had a very good holiday, Las Vegas was just as good as ever and yet again it had evolved since the last time we visited and I will definitely do another Poker tournament (or two, or three). We thought PE was a great experience, even with the reclining seat incident. However, we were also very spoilt with the Upper Class experience on the way out. Either way when we go on our next long haul trip, which is looking like Orlando with the Apprentice, I doubt we will be flying economy long haul again.[:w]

Photos should be appearing in the Photo Gallery. If I have time, I'll put in the TR.

Edited: Now with pictures!
#737163 by aspence7
18 Feb 2010, 17:03
Are the PE seats that much different between the A346-600's and the B747's?

I've only ever flown PE on the A346-600 but at 613' didn't have any problems with the seats in front reclining?

Shame that it caused a problem though, that's the last thing you need!
#737164 by Decker
18 Feb 2010, 17:06
Thanks for the TR! The reclining seat is a perennial issue - the seat reclines and the pax has paid for a reclining seat. The fact that it spoils the IFE is the fault of VS not the recliner. I probably wouldn't have accommodated your request I have to say... still it sounds like quid pro quo for the knee incident!
#737167 by pjh
18 Feb 2010, 17:32
Excellent pair of TRs DA: thanks.

Did you buy anything in the guitar shop?

Have to agree about Manor Parking. They seem far less efficient than others I've used at other airports, but then again the whole way in / way out thing at LGW is a shambles.

Paul
#737169 by DarkAuror
18 Feb 2010, 17:51
quote:Originally posted by pjh
Excellent pair of TRs DA: thanks.

Did you buy anything in the guitar shop?

Have to agree about Manor Parking. They seem far less efficient than others I've used at other airports, but then again the whole way in / way out thing at LGW is a shambles.

Paul



Just a new guitar strap and a bulk pack of picks. I didn't have room for a new softball bat and I definitely didn't have room for an Epiphone SG copy ($300!) [:D]

I went with Manor as they were recommended by family members. The traffic was horrendeous and I did get an apology but even so.
#737171 by Penny_L
18 Feb 2010, 19:13
I was on that flight too...nice to have a Heathrow plane for a change
#737179 by buns
18 Feb 2010, 22:38
Glad to hear you had a great time in Vegas - one day I will get to be in the States during Superbowl weekend[;)]

After your outbound trip, the recline incident will no doubt strengthen your resolve to grab a UC seat in the future[}:)]

buns
#737181 by jafleming
18 Feb 2010, 23:43
Wow - sounds like a fantastic trip. I'm all for reclining, but with a little consideration - my Dads' knees had a run in with a fast recliner last time we returned from Boston. I prefer to avoid the conflict and grab a UC seat!
#737189 by Neil
19 Feb 2010, 08:47
Thanks for two great TR's, pics are always a great addition.

Neil
#737195 by Slipperman
19 Feb 2010, 10:48
Aaarrgghh! I wanna go back to Vegas.

Thanks for the TR.
#737254 by Guy M
19 Feb 2010, 22:17
Blimey, sounds like you managed to squeeze even more into your week than we did! We found the sleep in UC on the way over followed by a 2 hour power nap once we'd checked in allowed us to stay up later than we expected on arrival (about 1am) and that we were then pretty much on Vegas time when we got up on Sunday morning.

I did wonder why they were doing the hard-sell on PE upgrades on the way back. The change of plane would make sense.

We had a chap who was about 6'2 next to us who complained to staff about 3 times about the legroom in economy. I did point out that an extra-legroom seat was only about $125 more at check-in (and seeing as he mentioned selling recently selling his company for 300k I would've thought he could have justified the expense) but he still kept angling for a free relocation. You'll be glad to hear he didn't get it!

I had an inconsiderate full recliner in front of me too, although she was only about 5ft. I didn't mind so much as I thought she was going to sleep but was bit unimpressed when she proceeded to lean forward in her chair to watch the IFE, leaving the seat fully reclined. Unfortunately, when she went to sleep I must have been a bit fidgety as I appeared to unwittingly dig my knees into the back a couple of times as I was moving around [:w]

We went to see out first Cirque show too, 'O' at Bellagio. Visually amazing... but I totally missed the fact that they were trying to create some sort of tenuous storyline until at least 3/4 of the way in.
#737420 by aspence7
22 Feb 2010, 11:26
People who recline their seats cannot be labeled inconsiderate.

They paid for the seat, so should be entitled to use it and it's features whoever they want.
#738159 by Guy M
03 Mar 2010, 12:34
I think people who recline their seat in an inconsiderate manner can indeed be labeled as such. As I said, in my case, the person in front reclined their chair fully only then to continue to sat leaning forward and watching her IFE.

I always make the effort to ask the person behind if they mind me reclining, thereby giving them the opportunity to say they do and ample warning if they have a drink or food in front of them, and then don't tend to recline more than about 50% of the way. And I'm 6ft and would generally benefit from the additional room.

I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be entitled to make use of the seat they've paid for, but there are most certainly ways in which their use of it can be done in a more sociable way.
#738161 by aspence7
03 Mar 2010, 12:51
I do agree with you. But I think people just don't realise most of the time. They assume that they are altering their chair, and forget that the person behind them is effected by the Tray and TV on the back of it.

But at the end of the day, If reclining the chair back 100% makes for a more comfortable journey, and as long as they aren't constantly altering the recline throughout the journey then then the person behind will have to just deal with it!
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