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#262481 by Jacki
27 Feb 2010, 19:45
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I left work later than anticipated, so I loaded the taxi with suitcases (I am a firm believer that you can never pack too many kitchen sinks) and headed for the airport through the evening rush hour traffic. I had arranged for the taxi to use the CDC drop off so when it arrived I immediately started taking notes of the registration number, model, colour etc. The poore driver was convinced I was an undercover inspector!

Check in was very quick and it seemed only a matter of minutes before we were in the Club House and ordering our first glass of champagne. We have made this trip a number of times and by the end of a busy day at work a relaxing treatment at the Cow Shed marks the start to the holiday.

For the past week however I had been suffering from the same recurring nightmare - :

As I approached the Cowshed receptionist who was filing her nails, chewing gum and chatting to her colleague I noticed the treatment rooms were all empty and the therapists were standing around looking bored. I asedk politely if I could book in and as I do the receptionist slowly turned into the She Devil, stared menacingly at me, tappec a few keys on her PC before spitting out the words Computer says NO. At this point a big steel shutter cames down, the CH completely disappeared and I found myself in the main terminal queuing for a MacDonalds.

In trepidation I looked over at the cowshed reception and it did not look good. As is usual at this time of night the CH was busy but there was only one hairdresser working and I could only see two treatment rooms in use. My worst fears were confirmed when the receptionist advised that all appointments were booked for the next 4 hours and unless there were any delays or no shows we could not be accommodated! I was furious and complained to the Manageress who tried to tell me this was the system passengers preferred. During my heated conversation 7 more people were turned away and I made the point that this was clearly not the enhanced service previously described by Virgin when the IFTs were removed. I then started my own passenger poll in front of her!


With no chance of a treatment we wandered over to the deli and picked up a plate of sushi and another glass of champagne. We were eating when a couple in their 30s sat down opposite. Things took an interesting turn when the woman suddenly said to her partner so you have invited HER to dinner next week? They man said yes and she then loudly proclaimed Well why dont you invite all the other women you sleep with in the village as well He unsuprisingly looked embarrassed and we started eating furiously whilst straining to hear the rest of the conversation! For the next 20 minutes we learnt that they had moved to a new village and whilst she now worked some distance away he was working from home and had taken his neighbourly duties a bit too seriously! She proceeded to systematically go through a list of women, occasionally stopping for confirmation that they qualified for a dinner invitation! Then just as suddenly as the conversation started their flight to SA was called and they got up and walked off to catch their plane! Surreal and probably more fun than a facial!

After that we tried listening into to other conversations but they seemed ridiculously tame and we were relieved when our flight was called on time! Priority boarding worked well so in no time I was in my seat (11A). UC was full and the crew who were mostly Chinese were enthusiastic but I did wonder about their command of the English language as any requests were greeted with a long pause followed by a nervous laugh and it either didnt materialise or was incomplete/wrong. The FSM was around but she didnt introduce herself and I think she was very busy as the flight was full.

The food was surprisingly good.

Chicken salad

Mushroom spinach and feta Pithivier (?)

Cheese

Lemon tart


After supper I noticed that my headset didnt work but when a replacement didnt materialise I was happy to settle down for the night. After a few hours sleep I and most of the cabin were woken by an extremely loud snorer. I checked and Hackneyguy was not on board! In the end a few of us went to the bar for a sedative and the next thing I remember is being woken for breakfast prior to landing in HKG.

Breakfast just before landing seems a strange meal on this route as it is late evening in HKG and those going on to Sydney will be offered dinner in a couple of hours so I just had a cup of coffee to stay awake.




HKG-SYD

The HKG Clubhouse is an old friend and never disappoints, an oasis of calm in the middle of a 24 hour endurance test. I feel guilty that she always gets the in transit tousled haired, bleary eyed, hand me a drink and find me a corner to rock in until my flight is called version of me. But after a warm welcome, refreshing shower, a glass of champagne and a delicious passion fruit sorbet on the terrace I was beginning to feel normal again. Please note ignoring the V-Flyer tradition no vases were broken on this occasion.


Priority boarding worked well again and the crew on this leg were much more professional. The FSM was very evident sadly the same cannot be said for the Polos or pens. I did find it amusing that when the Immigration forms were handed out we all asked for a pen and the FSM went away and came back with a box of the old UC pens.
Do you think he was holding these back for his next Ebay sale?

I chose not to eat supper but have kept both menus should anyone want the choices.

The bed must have been comfortable as I slept soundly until the smell of bacon rolls wafted through the cabin.

Fast track was working well until poor J was taken into a room for further questioning at Immigration but he was soon released and was very happy that the rubber glove wasnt required!

By the time I had collected J our bags were through so we just breezed out into the bright Sydney sunshine.

To summarise the outward journey - the second crew and FSM were infinitely superior to the first but both were very friendly and the experience overall was a positive one. I would have commented more about the lack of amenity kits, polo mints etc but SQ Business offered even less so it appears to be standard.

My biggest sadness is that after 20+ years of flying Virgin the lack of available treatments in the LHR CH means a major attraction of flying Virgin has gone and unless there is a very tempting UC sale SQ has become a major consideration.
#737895 by tontybear
27 Feb 2010, 20:14
Well glad you had a good trip and you, J and kitchen sinks arrived safe and sound !

(you beat me to it in doing the TR - mine is on the way - homnest guv!)
#737896 by s1990
27 Feb 2010, 20:23
It's dissapointing to hear once again that UC passengers are unable to get a treatment before their flight. What happened to VA increasing the clubhouse service after removing the in flight therapists?! I'm taking my first flight in a couple of weeks since the introduction of no pre-booking and like you I am almost expecting there to be no appointments available.

Just out of interest how long before your flight did you arrive at the clubhouse?

Thanks
#737897 by Guest
27 Feb 2010, 20:33
Thanks Jacki for a great read - makes up for being sick and unable to go see Lady GaGA tonight. And good news for you and all the other UC PAX (and my long suffering BF - love him) I now have my portable CPAP so my snoring is a thing of recent history ....

Hope you had a great holiday and looking forward to reading your return TR (and catching up over a few cocktails and super very soon).

Regards,

HG
#737898 by Jacki
27 Feb 2010, 20:35
TB - I'm waiting?!!!

s1990 :We arrived in the CH 3 hours before the flight was called and it was clear there just weren't enough hairdressers or therapist on duty to meet the demand.
#737904 by northernhenry
27 Feb 2010, 21:31
quote:Originally posted by Jacki
LHR-HKG
After a few hours sleep I and most of the cabin were woken by an extremely loud snorer. I checked and Hackneyguy was not on board! In the end a few of us went to the bar for a sedative and the next thing I remember is being woken for breakfast prior to landing in HKG.


[:?] And we got the up turned eyes from a few pax when boarding with mini NH..[:?]

Our inflight Snorer on the LHR-SYD run woke her up!

Great read, very poor show on VS's part at CH, Least the Butter trick would of helped..[:w]

There's no getting round the fact direct LHR-SYD is a Bl00dy long way..[xx(]

[y]

NH
#737905 by buns
27 Feb 2010, 21:39
Jacki

Thanks for an interesting TR[y][y]

I cannot fathom the thought behind curtailing the pre-booking of treatments [:?] All it seems to have done is p**s off customers and give no resemblance of service

Hope the visit to Oz lived up to your expectations

buns
#737907 by tontybear
27 Feb 2010, 23:23
quote:Originally posted by Jacki
TB - I'm waiting?!!!



Dear lady, you of all people should know that you have to wait for quality and a Tonty TR is, in my modest opinion, a work of quality!

On the CH appointments I had no problems on the 17th when I got there just after noon. In fact they could have done me immediatly but I wanted a drink (or three) and some lunch first. Admitedly it was a quiet day all round (I asked my server).

I did ask how the no pre booking appointments were working out and they did tell me that they thought it was working well and was a lot less hassell as it meant no having to wait 5 mins bebore declaring a no show then announcing 'Mr X on the wait list please come to the Spa' and waiting 5 mins for Mr X to come. It meant the staff were almost always fully occupied and that they could be more relaxed themselves when giving a treatment.

BUT I do think VS should look at the mix and maybe have some pre-booked appointments and sending an email to pax say two weeks before their flight. It wont help everyone but it cold be a solution.
#737912 by Jacki
28 Feb 2010, 00:08
NH - I was about to get the butter as you had suggested when the flight was called! It is a long way but well worth the effort.

Buns and TB- I know that every business has to use their staff optimally but when the offer of a treatment in the CH is such a key selling point and the CH is usually busy between 6 and 8 it should be possible to be better prepared, particularly as we were led to believe the demise of the IFT would provide more availability not less.
#737916 by Scrooge
28 Feb 2010, 00:27
Thanks for posting Jacki, it really does seem that VS have shot themseleves in the foot with these enhancements.


quote:Originally posted by hackneyguy
Thanks Jacki for a great read - makes up for being sick and unable to go see Lady GaGA tonight.
Regards,

HG


Oh that sucks, though in general I hate this kind of music, there is something about her I like.
#737928 by HWVlover
28 Feb 2010, 10:24
Excellent report, dear lady, thank you.

What a pity Jacki that the SA flight wasn't delayed a while, you might have discovered location, names, addresses and phone numbers! People watching and people listening...amongst life's greatest pleasures[y]

And we are waiting Tonty.

[:X]
#737929 by Jacki
28 Feb 2010, 10:57
Thank you HWV -the amazing thing was they didn't seem to think it was too big a deal and when the flight was called they got up and walked off together as if nothing had happened!
#737930 by slinky09
28 Feb 2010, 11:08
Loved the folk sleeping their way through the village, sounds like a scene from Little Britain!

Sounds a good trip, if variable, thanks for the TR.

I am with all those who think VS has done us a disservice with CH treatments ... it is extremely variable in that there are of course quiet times of the day when it's possible to turn up, but then of couse busy times and there's no surety at all, which is the bad thing. That and the fact that they are obviously reducing staff, not providing the boost promised!

Shame about the variable crew but hope you're having fun in Aus!
#737940 by DragonLady
28 Feb 2010, 11:54
Thanks for the report Jacki. I'm with you and the other dissenters who think that the removal of pre- booking treatments is a retrograde step. As I reported back in December the girl who cut my hair was of the same opinion too.
Personally (and I hope I'm totally wrong) I think we'll also see the introduction of charges at LHR soon for anything above a basic treatment (a la Gatwick).
DL
#737984 by seanpep
28 Feb 2010, 18:19
Thanks for the TR

I understand that it simplifies things for staff but for me the issue is that once in the clubhouse everyone is treated identically. So if you re the guest of an AU member who is flying Y you have the same chance as a AU flying UC. Not sure this makes sense. Having said that, last week I asked for a haircut after saying which flight I was on and she asked to see my boarding pass before saying they had space, anyone any idea what that was about?
#737988 by tontybear
28 Feb 2010, 19:05
quote:Originally posted by seanpep
Thanks for the TR
Having said that, last week I asked for a haircut after saying which flight I was on and she asked to see my boarding pass before saying they had space, anyone any idea what that was about?


They have a table with all the flights listed with their boarding and departure times and a time that is the last booking slot that they will allocate for someone on that flight.

I suppose its to allow someone enough time to have a treatment / hair cut then for them to be able to comfortably manage the boarding process without a mad rush.
#737989 by honey lamb
28 Feb 2010, 19:11
quote:Originally posted by virginboy747
Great TR! Yep the extras (polos etc) have now gone, but there is a bag of pens loaded which are given out on request! Look forward to the return.

The return is here. The OP flew back with Singapore Airlines
#738016 by DarkAuror
01 Mar 2010, 08:41
Thanks for the great TR, Jacki![y] Hope you had a great holiday.

It does look like, based on the TRs, that VS have shot themselves in the foot with the new enhanced treatment service. I do wonder who they surveyed to gleen the response that this new service is what the public wanted. I mean v-flyer is large enough to assume at least one member would have been surveyed.[:?]

quote:Originally posted by virginboy747
Great TR! Yep the extras (polos etc) have now gone, but there is a bag of pens loaded which are given out on request! Look forward to the return.


Curses! On my lucky upgrade, I knew the extras were stopped but I didn't think about asking for pens. Another schoolboy error on my part.[B)]
#738017 by Neil
01 Mar 2010, 08:45
Just catching up on the TR's, so thanks for a great read. I for one am very glad you didn't get a treatment, and I do love listening in on other people's conversations [:I][}:)]

Neil
#738028 by ukcobra
01 Mar 2010, 12:41
Nice TR, I agree that the HK clubhouse is fab.

I also echo your experiences with the LHR Cowshed bookings, the last few times I could n't get a pre-booked treatment nor a standby one, and I always get there 4 hours before my flight !

Mark
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