#745495 by eejp1007
10 May 2010, 16:17
BA cabin crew to strike from May 18-22, May 24-28, May 30-June 3 and June 5-9
Just hit the BBC ticker...
More news to come later
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#745500 by eejp1007
10 May 2010, 16:33
Thanks for posting the link Nick, they hadn't uploaded the new page when I first posted, all there now though information is minimal.
I think that like last time, most 777 flights will operate (albeit with mininal service) as that is what they have trained the majority of the volunteer crew on. 747 will be cut more than 777 and short haul will be ad-hoc or bought in again.

This is such a shame and will cause even more problems for the travelling public and travel agents alike.

On a very selfish note I have a VS flight back from DXB on 21st May and I am thinking that if BA are not running at full service levels them pax will switch to VS and UC will be full of people who aren't me!
#745501 by DocRo
10 May 2010, 16:34
Smart - really smart
Going to be very busy on VS in the near future - so long as you know what stays away.
#745506 by vizbiz
10 May 2010, 17:26
Unite Officials are quoted today as saying;
"'Cabin crew are left with no choice but to take further strike action. There can be no industrial peace without meaningful negotiations and while management victimises trade unionists and uses disciplinary procedures in a witch-hunt.....

AND THEN

...Unite said it was also planning to hold a further industrial action ballot of BA cabin crew over issues which have arisen from the company's conduct during the dispute."

They have obviously very cynically and deliberately targetted families with this strike action; it's across the Whitsun/Half Term break. It's possible our flight might still go, although both Dep and Return flights are on Strike days, however we daren't now book any hotels, cars or villas for the first week (2nd week is unfortnately paid for already) as it's entirely possible we might not fly. But because BA have said to me they won't know until the last minute whether or not we'll be flying, it gives us virtually no chance of organising a replacement flight in time.

I have nothing but contempt and disgust for both the union, the cabin crew, and BA management for this incredibly cynical attack on families. I truly hope the airline goes bankrupt. Good riddance to the lot of them.
#745507 by Pete
10 May 2010, 17:36
I spent a day reading through the mammoth pprune thread which has covered the strike from its initial rumblings, and provides many insights from insider points of view. Bearing that in mind, I've come to the following conclusions;

- BASSA are completely out of touch with the reality of industry, and, in particular, (ex)-branch secretary Duncan Holley and the like exist in a bubble of industrial relations that disappeared years ago in other companies; but lived on in the spectre of post-privatised BA because the leadership didn't have the ability/stomach for change.
- Willie Walshe holds no truck with unions, by the looks of it, and I wouldn't be surprised if his game plan in this is to finally flush the militants out of the company. It seems BASSA had (and I use the past tense advisedly) a strangle hold on operations at BA, and Walshe is fighting back control for the management.
- BASSA appear to be not only fighting BA management on one side, but also their Unite umbrella organisation on the other. On top of that, they seem completely unprepared to deal with situations despite long notice from BA. For example, BA warned that staff travel would be withdrawn if a strike went ahead. The strike went ahead, then about a week or so later, staff travel was withdrawn. BASSA then sent an email to their membership that they'd check the legality of that and get back to them. Surely that's something they could have been doing when it was first warned to be withdrawn? And on the subject of staff travel, it seems BASSA have been telling their strikers that it's definitely illegal (which everything else I've read suggests it is not), but then contradicting their position by demanding it is back in a negotiating document. If it's illegal, get an injunction; if it's not, stop lying to your members.
- BA Cabin Crew appear to be fighting a losing battle here, both in terms of their justification for strike action, and also how they are going about it. Few strikers appear to be able to articulate quite why they are striking, and now it appears to be whipped up by union enrage that union reps can't be paid £50k to do union business rather than serve customers. Also, given the fragile situation surrounding the ash cloud crisis, few members of the public are going to be sympathetic to crew who refuse to operate flights that could otherwise fly if we see ongoing disruption from the volcano. BASSA are clearly rubbing their hands in glee at the thought of the impact they could cause without thinking of the consequences to the public.

So, whilst I would normally offer some sympathy for the plight of those who need to go as far as industrial action, I have to come to the conclusion their cause is futile, and Walshe will be cutting them a P45 just as soon as he is legally able. In the latest statement from BA, he says "nothing positive to be gained from further strikes" - ie, there are no further offers; and Walshe seems to be a man who has stuck to his promises.
#745510 by totallylost
10 May 2010, 18:07
I can't believe that yet more strikes are being planned. I used to always fly BA, ( my preferred airline) but after experiencing the lack of service in my past few flight in Club, I became very disheartened with BA and am taking my next trip on Virgin :-)

All these strikes are going to do the airline no good at all.
#745524 by vizbiz
10 May 2010, 20:42
Mandy Hall wrote:Pete,

From what I can gather from that thread is that there is a crunch date early in June (6th or 12th) when protection is withdrawn from the strikers .... perhaps we shall see then..


Oooo-er mrs :0! The strikers losing their protection? Bet they wish they had some Virgin Mates now..... a much under-rated brand by all accounts (so I'm told!). Serves them right, that's what I say.
#745560 by iforres1
11 May 2010, 08:02
Strikes, Ash clouds and more strikes. The industry and all its ancillary services will need to cut jobs if this all goes on. It is a no win situ for everyone.

At least this time I have no flights booked over the strike period.
Incidently our return flight from MRU during the last strike period was one of the best BA CW services ever. I even gave the purser in our bubble cabin my MOL book to read as there was an excellent chapter about WW.

Iain
#745629 by slinky09
11 May 2010, 16:33
I too often veer toward sympathy for striking groups of workers who believe that is their last resort. However, I agree with Pete, in this situation, the actions of the union representing staff are contrary to their members as well as their employer. Sometimes, no matter how lefty you are, people need to stand up against such self-serving behaviour - just as Neil Kinnock did all those years ago ...
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