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#767464 by slinky09
13 Feb 2011, 15:31
Am researching something I haven't done in years and years, a package holiday :0 .

Looking at Jalousie in St Lucia for 7 nights later in the year and if I book flights and hotel separately the price is a whopping two thousand pounds less that VH online ...

Am I missing something, IIRC don't FC members get a discount?
#767468 by lozza
13 Feb 2011, 15:47
Did the same for my upcoming Vegas trip.

PE return flights booked direct with VA. 10nts at The Cosmopolitan booked direct with VH. Worked out over £1000 cheaper than booking the whole lot with VH.

So in answer to your question, I would say emphatically yes.
#767469 by BuddingPilot
13 Feb 2011, 15:49
I've been looking into them too recently for a wedding in Vegas. Generally, I've found the cost of the package is simialr to the cost of things booked separately so not much saving and in fact they force you to buy e.g. car hire or a transfer.

For me, however, the big win is that for a short trip that doesn't involve a Saturday night, it is *much* cheaper to book via VH as they don't load up the flight price.
#767470 by DragonLady
13 Feb 2011, 15:51
FC members get 10% discount (as do FVCs and VS MBNA cc holders). Sometimes (but not often) VH can be cheaper than doing the booking yourself due to their buying power with hotel suppliers (and particularly with late deals). I've just booked a package with VH (not having booked a package for years too) to utilise the plethora of vouchers earned via my Tesco cc before they expired (so essentially a free trip :) ).
DL
#767471 by Concorde RIP
13 Feb 2011, 15:53
Yes and yes!!!!

VH keep changing the discounts around, but I'm pretty sure FC members get a discount, but you need to call them in order to get that.

I think, and I mean think, it's 10% - but call them state you are an FC member and ask what the discount is...

I must say that I've mostly stopped using VH now, as I am finding that if I put the whole thing together myself, I save quite a lot.

That said, if you book as a package, and any problems arise, the liability will be handled by VH, and thus does simplify things enormously. Plus, you get reps in resort...

For me, VH a lot simpler than booking all comonents separately..but VH likely more expensive...time or money....
#767472 by Luke085
13 Feb 2011, 15:55
10% discount for FC members.

IMHO VH is overpriced! As you have discovered yourself!

If you compare like for like Y products, you would get far better value for money using Thomson or first choice! Flight is better than VS, on demand, 33inch seat pitch as standard etc. Hotels are the same!

However when it comes to PE or UC, clearly VS takes the lead in a huge way!

You clearly get the security of ABTA protection by booking as a package encase there are any volcanic eruptions etc.

I will always book separately, VH need to seriously review their pricing!

Lastly, VH do occasionally do some good deals in their sale, which changes things!

Hotel in St Lucia is a great choice!

Luke
#767474 by DragonLady
13 Feb 2011, 15:59
BuddingPilot wrote: and in fact they force you to buy e.g. car hire or a transfer.



This isn't true. You can decline their "free included" car if you wish (I have :) ) , and there is no compulsion to purchase a transfer either.
DL
#767475 by Miss G
13 Feb 2011, 16:04
If you compare like for like Y products, you would get far better value for money using Thomson or first choice! Flight is better than VS, on demand, 33inch seat pitch as standard etc. Hotels are the same!


Beware though, there are lots of hidden extras with people like First Choice, like paying for meals and stuff like that. Also, stay away from Thomas Cook! We booked a package with them for a cheap summer getaway and the plane was the WORST thing I have ever been on, and was diverted so we could drop ONE engineer off somewhere that another one of it's planes were! Terrible.
#767476 by Luke085
13 Feb 2011, 16:08
Miss G wrote:
If you compare like for like Y products, you would get far better value for money using Thomson or first choice! Flight is better than VS, on demand, 33inch seat pitch as standard etc. Hotels are the same!


Beware though, there are lots of hidden extras with people like First Choice, like paying for meals and stuff like that. Also, stay away from Thomas Cook! We booked a package with them for a cheap summer getaway and the plane was the WORST thing I have ever been on, and was diverted so we could drop ONE engineer off somewhere that another one of it's planes were! Terrible.


I'm not talking FC or Thomson for short haul-I'd avoid them for short haul like the plague!

Long haul is different, meals are included for free!

You get basic drinks but would have to pay for extra drinks in the flight but this still works out cheaper than Y with VH.

Agree Thomas Cook should be avoided.
#767477 by Miss G
13 Feb 2011, 16:10
I'm not talking FC or Thomson for short haul-I'd avoid them for short haul like the plague!


My friends went to Cuba with Thomas Cook and said the planes were as bad as the one we described to them.
#767479 by HWVlover
13 Feb 2011, 16:24
I have just done a comparison of the price I have paid VH for my upcoming Grenada holiday with the same provided by Monarch.

I wish I hadn't.

:0 :#

PS At least I get a jumbo and the bubble ii)
#767480 by Luke085
13 Feb 2011, 16:28
HWVlover wrote:I have just done a comparison of the price I have paid VH for my upcoming Grenada hoiiday with the same provided by Monarch.

I wish I hadn't.

:0 :#

PS At least I get a jumbo and the bubble ii)


If it makes you feel any better, monarch is a long haul version of Ryanair!! Lol

Luke
#767481 by totallylost
13 Feb 2011, 16:29
When I was looking to book a trip to NYC in May, I called VH up and asked them to quote, They gave me a quote of approx £11,200 for my party of 4 Upper Class and with hotel. This included a 10% Flying club discount! When I looked at the flights and hotel seperately, I saved over £2,500 by not using VH. So yeah I'd say they are expensive and It was defo cheaper booking them myself, flights with VA and direct with the hotel.
#767482 by HWVlover
13 Feb 2011, 16:31
enyce085 wrote:If it makes you feel any better, monarch is a long haul version of Ryanair!! Lol

Luke


It does, thanks for that Luke. y)
#767483 by gilly
13 Feb 2011, 16:44
It isn't always cheaper to DIY. Last year we did a VH trip to Grenada, A/I UC flights and it worked out about £2,000 cheaper to book with VH. It was probably to do with a special promotion they were running with 15% discount - but whatever, we still saved a packet!
#767484 by Luke085
13 Feb 2011, 16:47
gilly wrote:It isn't always cheaper to DIY. Last year we did a VH trip to Grenada, A/I UC flights and it worked out about £2,000 cheaper to book with VH. It was probably to do with a special promotion they were running with 15% discount - but whatever, we still saved a packet!


I agree with you Gilly in certain promotions VH do work out cheaper than doing it DIY, however, how do they compare to other tour operators who fly to the same destinations?
#767485 by Dubaiification
13 Feb 2011, 17:00
I think the "definitive" answer is to shop around with dynamic packaging, DIY and tour operators.

I have always managed to find an ATOL/ABTA bonded agent to give me a similar or better price when planning mother's trips out here which really helped out when the volcano went pop.
#767507 by Paulhat
13 Feb 2011, 20:26
We use VH all the time due to the all round service that you receive, but recently they have been cutting back on freebies. For example you used to get a free meal at the Hard Rock cafe at universal Orlando n(
It's also annoying that you only get 50% of the miles flown when flying economy :(!
Generally though we would say that VH work out similar in price to other package holiday companys to Orlando, especially after the FVC / FC 10% discount. Also just to say that their reps are extremely good at sorting out problems in resort y) Furthermore, in the Carribean there are always reps that you can contact before you even leave. This comes in handy when you are going to a new destination and you want to check on what's provided or available in resort.
VH may not always be the cheapest holiday providers however, you do get what you pay for and in my experience VH always offer a superb service and go out of their way to make your holiday the best it can be.
#767512 by Bill S
13 Feb 2011, 20:52
Remember that this forum is quite specialised.
Most are experience travellers.
Many are quite happy and comfortable with researching flight, hire cars, hotels etc and making the bookings to put the whole package together. This takes time - and much more time for the inexperienced.

So - to the typical V-Flyer, that can do all that themselves without taking weeks to do it, VH is very expensive.

To the typical holidaymaker on their two week vacation travelling to a place for the first time - VH can be a bargain.
#767564 by danwest
14 Feb 2011, 00:21
It depends when you book the holiday (and what dates). If you book over a year in advance with deals you get a good price, anything under a year up until the last month or 2 its expensive (on research I have done)

I have a holiday with VH in sept. I was watching the site for well over 2 months for the right deals to come up. I was also watching on other sites too. I kept word docs of prices, what it included dates the lot. Was a lot of research. (done the same thing in 2009). Finally found it! Good price and amazing deals came up on VH and have a real good holiday at Florida at an amazing price!
#767567 by danwest
14 Feb 2011, 00:40
If you want any help from the VH guys, speak to them via the Facebook group. For starters, you are not directed to a call centre! Just leave a message, they will message you and you can chat via there. I have had great help from 2 of the Facebook staff with my Holiday. 5/5 for support there, not so much via email or phone call.
#767576 by catsilversword
14 Feb 2011, 06:48
I guess it all depends on your comfort zone.I do sometimes look at VH, but generally to look at itineraries (sometimes helpful when planning a road trip, I find). I do put trips together myself, but a huge part of that for me is that I actually enjoy it! Maybe I should change jobs.... I'm not precious about it though, if VH offered a better deal, I'd take it ;)

Though, on the other hand, when they screw things up.... there'd be India to talk to... :(
#767760 by Leanne
15 Feb 2011, 14:21
All my long haul trips have been with VH (inc my wedding), usually we book about a year in advance and have always had what we thought was a good deal.

I always shop about but have always gone back to VH to book.

This year though I don't know whats happened (IYKWIM) but the prices have shot up!

We had looked to go to go pretty much anywhere in the Caribbean but the cheapest was over 4K and we struggle to justify that on one holiday this year.

So our alternative is a city break to Chicago with VH and VS of course, and then 11 nights in Portugal (my first European holiday *shocked face*)
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