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#810346 by ratechaser
10 May 2012, 18:46
Excellent news on the outbound... since my employer stopped us from using Newark flights (clearly only getting a good deal on JFK), the latest I could go was at 5.15pm on the 9... this buys me back nearly 2 hours of my Sundays, and hopefully a few brownie points at home!
#810355 by slinky09
10 May 2012, 19:13
Thank you VB, that is excellent news. I knew it when the JFK clubhouse expansion was announced that extra flights were due, this is fantastic, and goes some way to resolving the seat cull!
#810360 by honey lamb
10 May 2012, 20:13
clarkeysntfc wrote:Interesting news.

Wonder where the LHR slot and aircraft came from to be able to operate this route?

Well given that it starts on October 28th I would imagine it's from the Vancouver flight and possibly the second SFO flight or the Chicago flight.
#810423 by clarkeysntfc
11 May 2012, 14:31
honey lamb wrote:
clarkeysntfc wrote:Interesting news.

Wonder where the LHR slot and aircraft came from to be able to operate this route?

Well given that it starts on October 28th I would imagine it's from the Vancouver flight and possibly the second SFO flight or the Chicago flight.


So it's not actual growth or expansion then? n(
#810439 by virginboy747
11 May 2012, 15:57
Well it is growth as means an additional permanent route as with BOM also starting and cancun. Chicago and Vancouver are seasonal for the summer. Another 4 330s arriving this year will provide the extra capacity
#810442 by clarkeysntfc
11 May 2012, 16:13
virginboy747 wrote:Well it is growth as means an additional permanent route as with BOM also starting and cancun. Chicago and Vancouver are seasonal for the summer. Another 4 330s arriving this year will provide the extra capacity


I don't understand how stopping 2 routes at the end of the summer schedule and adding 2 at the start of winter, consititues growth?

Plus 4 smaller aircraft joining = capacity cut.

I might be wrong but I don't think Cancun is growth for LGW because they dropped one of the Jamaica routes to enable it.
#810443 by sfolhr
11 May 2012, 16:19
virginboy747 wrote:Well it is growth as means an additional permanent route as with BOM also starting and cancun. Chicago and Vancouver are seasonal for the summer. Another 4 330s arriving this year will provide the extra capacity



And they lose the second sfo as well as 4 of the a346 go this year - do they have enough aircraft??
#810445 by slinky09
11 May 2012, 16:31
virginboy747 wrote:Well it is growth as means an additional permanent route as with BOM also starting and cancun. Chicago and Vancouver are seasonal for the summer. Another 4 330s arriving this year will provide the extra capacity


I am so looking forward to the Cancun inaugural VB - will you be on it?
#810540 by honey lamb
12 May 2012, 12:41
JCBR wrote:I think ORD and the 2nd SFO are permanent fixtures now.

Chicago isn't. I tried a dummy booking for November and got this message
We only fly between London Heathrow and Chicago during the UK Summer period.
7th MAY 2012 – 14th OCTOBER 2012

In addition with regard to the VS 41/42 the VS website states
Our new service will being on 26th March 2012 and will run throughout the summer, until 26th October 2012.

A dummy booking for a day on which the second SFO flight is scheduled to fly during the summer months shows only the VS19
#810547 by slinky09
12 May 2012, 15:22
JCBR wrote:I think ORD and the 2nd SFO are permanent fixtures now.


There were some stories that this might come to pass, but as HL says, the current plan is otherwise.
#810551 by barg
12 May 2012, 17:17
While you can argue that Cancun is just a replacement service, Vancouver is growth, as is Mumbai, as is additional Accra services, an additional San Francisco, and now a New York (although you could argue that was a reinstatement).

That's an awful lot of growth for one year, but clearly not quite enough for some people.
#810562 by slinky09
12 May 2012, 19:36
barg wrote:While you can argue that Cancun is just a replacement service, Vancouver is growth, as is Mumbai, as is additional Accra services, an additional San Francisco, and now a New York (although you could argue that was a reinstatement).

That's an awful lot of growth for one year, but clearly not quite enough for some people.


If New York is seasonal to replace the YVR and SFO then that's not necessarily additional growth. If it is seasonal though, I am surprised, winter is not necessarily the height of the travel season ?| .
#810567 by tontybear
12 May 2012, 19:57
barg wrote:While you can argue that Cancun is just a replacement service, Vancouver is growth, as is Mumbai, as is additional Accra services, an additional San Francisco, and now a New York (although you could argue that was a reinstatement).

That's an awful lot of growth for one year, but clearly not quite enough for some people.


Au contraire

Mumbai can't really be called a new route. Even the VS blurb (on the 'latest news' in the website) states

After a few years break we will be returning to Mumbai with a new daily flight ...


Cancun on the otherhand is a NEW route and not a reinstatement
as per this
#810588 by slinky09
13 May 2012, 09:31
tontybear wrote:Au contraire


Well, since the post was about growth I think the post was right, Mumbai may have operated before, but at this time it is a new permanent route and that means growth. As you are right to point out also is Cancun (bit of personal interest there, look out for more on this ;) ), and additional Accra services. The VS25/6 is also growth because that's a permanent route whereas the second SFO and the part time YVR are seasonal - would the slots for these become the winter seasonal Cape Town instead, or would they come from ORD, but then that makes two seasonal slot pairs and only one needed for CPT so I guess something else ...

So we have two new permanent additions to the schedule, BOM and JFK (25/6) this year, plus part time Cancun, and then however the seasonal routes map out or interchange.
#810678 by Concorde RIP
14 May 2012, 20:38
I wondered whether increased frequency might be the plan with the smaller A330s. Makes a lot of sense, it gives people more choice of flight time whilst keeping up the number of seats on a daily basis (Ithink!).

Makes a deal of sense to me...
#810754 by StillRedHot
15 May 2012, 16:23
slinky09 wrote:
So we have two new permanent additions to the schedule, BOM and JFK (25/6) this year, plus part time Cancun, and then however the seasonal routes map out or interchange.

Cancun is permanent, year-round too.
#810779 by horburyflyer
15 May 2012, 19:44
Fantastic news about the VS25/26 coming back, another option to fly back during the day from NYC y)

VS are on a roll - goood news and welcome :D

Jon
#810798 by at240
15 May 2012, 22:01
I welcome this news too. Does anyone know when the flights will be available for booking? I need to be in NYC in early November and would be interested in trying the day flight back.
#811460 by horburyflyer
21 May 2012, 14:16
I see that the VS25/26 is now bookable....and it will be operated by a A333....Excellent news.

But it does mean in the Winter schedule that the VS3/4 goes back to an A343!

Jon
#811602 by at240
22 May 2012, 19:52
horburyflyer wrote:But it does mean in the Winter schedule that the VS3/4 goes back to an A343!


:0 I hope that this changes. Putting the least impressive equipment on a premium business route seems odd to me.
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