Getting an upgrade -- buying extra legroom helps or hinders?

Maybe, but it's not required.

Nope, it all smells like arbitrary air travel BS to me!

Mark

If you are on a VS plane you follow their rules.

Just as visitors to your home follow your rules and when you visit someone elses home you follow their rules.

It dosen't matter how ridiculous you think the rules are you follow them.

That's fine, I'm perfectly aware of the arbitrary rules pertaining to air travel (same goes for the security theatre and the use of mobile phones in the plane). I just wanted to establish that the justification that

For the safety of yourself, other customers and the crew, lying on the floor is strictly not allowed regardless of the seatbelt sign being on or off.

was just BS.

Mark

Maybe, but it's not required.


Nope, it all smells like arbitrary air travel BS to me!

Mark

If you are on a VS plane you follow their rules.

Just as visitors to your home follow your rules and when you visit someone elses home you follow their rules.

It dosen't matter how ridiculous you think the rules are you follow them.

That's fine, I'm perfectly aware of the arbitrary rules pertaining to air travel (same goes for the security theatre and the use of mobile phones in the plane). I just wanted to establish that the justification that

For the safety of yourself, other customers and the crew, lying on the floor is strictly not allowed regardless of the seatbelt sign being on or off.

was just BS.

Mark

I've slept on the floor and used seat as a pillow many times on VS wedged in a row of 4

Back to your original question Mark; I have always wondered this too.

Does getting or not getting an extra legroom seat affect your
chances of getting an upgrade from economy, if you're Au?

I generally fly out economy and buy an exit row seat. Then I fly back PE so I can sleep a bit better. My company policy doesn't extend to UC.

So, does that pre-purchased exit row lock you in place, like for example, a special meal does?

In 4 years of Au I have only been upgraded once, and IIRC it was on my very first flight after becoming Au. I wondered at the time if it was some kind of welcome reward.

I never expect an upgrade and rarely bother to ask, but it would be good to know how that particular part of the VS internal machinations worked.

I've slept on the floor and used seat as a pillow many times on VS wedged in a row of 4

Oh, so the arbitrary rule isn't even a rule at all!

What do you mean by "wedged in a row of 4", though? Do you mean you are in an exit row consisting of 4 seats, and sleep in front of your seat, with your legs pointing to the front of the plane? I didn't know there were any such rows (I thought that at most there'd be 3 seats in the exit row).

Mark

I never expect an upgrade and rarely bother to ask

Does asking ever work (i.e. you get an upgrade you wouldn't have got otherwise) on VS? I thought the received wisdom was not to ask.

"A refusal often offends"!

Mark

Does asking ever work (i.e. you get an upgrade you wouldn't have got otherwise) on VS? I thought the received wisdom was not to ask.

Asked once, felt like a complete idiot, so never again.

Perhaps it's just me, but I have a bit of an aversion to discussions like this. Status is fair enough, but the fact I'm less pretty / charming / willing to push a £20 note across in my passport* than others is just upsetting

* there was a thread a while back on this....