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#821574 by joeyc
28 Aug 2012, 19:55
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Writing this fueled with more than a few glasses of whiskey inside me so I apologise in advance if I wander off on those random tangents again.... Hope y’all enjoy y)

Despite the negative reviews of late I decided to give the VS3 on the A333 another shot - . I travelled on the new UCS a few months back, but failed to post a TR for it :# . The LHR-NYC run is a regular route for me and I am sure you would all get pretty tired of reading my missives, but will try to whenever I get time ;) However lets get stuck in..

Beginning this journey with a CDC that was a tad boring but again all part of that ‘upper’ service. After the driver caught me up on the various pax over the years who had forgotten passports and other random things that had to be taken home (or back to the train station ?| ) I hoped for silence for fear of what would come next. How about a nice little chat about his kid’s braces, ok then.. he was just trying to be friendly.. ii) ii)

Drive thru check in was a breeze, nice welcome at the doors and the case spirited away, now here begins the first hurdle - Apparently my seat is currently broken!!!! and there isn’t a spare. To prevent me hanging around the upper class wing, the check in agent recommended that I go through and they will catch up with me in the lounge. So, off I wandered, security channel was rather empty this time in the morning. Funny comment of the day was from a member of staff manning the metal detector, she had missed breakfast and refused to eat at work because the food in their canteen was like being fed rat poison!! Whether or not they had been fed food that tasted like rat poison or felt like there were rats in the staff canteen is still to be determined, however it still made me chuckle. :o)

Walking passed the currency exchange, received my usual wave and went over to have a chat, funnily enough it is one of those little things that makes my trips go by so much easier. At this point I should probably mention I was intending to time how long it took from limo to lounge, but as you can no doubt guess I got sidetracked a couple of times.. :w

Arrived at the CH to see a couple in front of me trying to blag their way in.... ha ha. Best of luck to them, around to the next podium and I was on my way through. They clearly paid their way or were successful with their blag as I saw them camping down at the bar later on.. y)

Sat in the restaurant and was quickly served, with breakfast on its way I took the opportunity to catch up on some work. I wish every day would start like this..Breakfast arrived and a coffee refill welcomed, however unfortunately that was the only offer of a refill in this particular area... :? ... must be that damned tree again!

Decided it was time to move on, swinging chair here I come. Another coffee ordered and I was content sitting looking out over the AA aircraft on stand, glimmering in the early morning sun, Bliss.. then came a call for me to visit the concierge desk, bad news I am afraid, my BRAND NEW UC seat refused to fold over into the bed mode :(! oh well, here is £50 worth of vouchers. ?| .. What’s my duty free allowance again ):

Enjoyed the rest of the time in the lounge and then boarding called, onto Gate 21..... Boarding took place through door B, greeted at the door by the FSM and pointed in the vague direction of my broken seat.. Not overly impressed by this FSM, but I am afraid to say I am rarely knocked away by some of the onboard staff these days n( .. just unlucky I guess.. Was approached by a poor CC member holding a tray of drinks that was clearly too heavy for her, so I gladly relieved her of a few glasses :D Whilst a drink was offered that was pretty much it for the moment, no welcome aboard spiel, explanation of the seats, guess it is lucky this is not my first trip to the zoo, or I may very well have been bewildered at all the new buttons adorned with hieroglyphs..

With champagne in hand I turned my attention to the suite... oh hello neighbour through the opaque window...Opaque eh?? How many fingers am I holding up Mr Ridgeway??

Dear lord they need to clean those things.. ever heard of a duster?? Will no doubt save the rant I could go on for the cleaning companies’ forum, which when I find, will fast be joining to comment on their ‘outstanding’ work!! Huh, this also appears to be the remains of someone’s snooze pack under the ottoman.. v( v(

Seat appears to be reclining ok so good fortune there and yes these do recline further than their predecessors. So reclined, drinking champagne and enjoying the show of the other pax figuring out what does what (funniest was someone attempting to swipe his credit card on the JAM handset - will come onto that later) what could be better?

As a side note, several other people have commented on it too, but just adding my voice to the chorus.. these seats are barely 6 months old and already cracks are starting to appear, fabric is frayed at the edges and there are even tears in some of the leather seats. It is a terrible shame that they were not built to higher spec but i suppose people moving on the seats will cause damage.. think of that VS designers when you were on your glue high?? People may fidget!! I may lay into the designers at some points but to be fair the overall tone of the cabin is really quite good, it feels classy and at the same time calming, although I would prefer the purple leather on the seats as opposed to the brown.. personal preference though.

With the Mutley like sniggering of a gent two rows away we were off, takeoff was smooth and in no time at all we were swinging out towards Wales and over the Atlantic. Side tangent again, anyone here know a creepy animated cartoon called salad fingers?? Well if not do not google it, I accept no liability for scaring or creeping people out :P There was a pax opposite me who was caressing near every line of the suite like salad fingers did to rusty things.. made me shudder..

Menus were brought round by the FSM, who’s knack at communication was becoming apparent.. “Menu” is all that was said and not being sure if it was a question or a statement I just replied “Please” :?

Settled in to watch the IFE and yep JAM is absolutely brilliant, picture is fantastic and almost HD in appearance. Control interface is very intuitive too, kind of like a tablet PC or iPad, so very easy to navigate around the menus. Drinks orders came around, I took a look at the CC chart and it had my name on there as well as frequent flyer number... come on CC, go that extra centimeter and personalise the service!! Glass of whisky ordered and back to JAM....

Dinner orders followed next and I decided on the Beetroot cured Salmon and the the slow cooked Feather Steak for the main. For an upper class meal I was actually disappointed, salmon portion size was laughably small and the steak was nothing overly special but at least the portion was fair :( Desert on the other hand was sublime, warm chocolate and salted caramel pudding is back y) the only discredit against the crew during dinner service, aside from not enough pudding for seconds, was that my glass was dry for most of the meal n( Oh well, onto the bar...

Sat down on one of the rather under padded bar stools, that oddly appeared to generate heat too ?| , to have a nice cup of tea with the crew.. well the area was clear except for the FSM reading the newspaper.. He only moved across, when I nearly sat on his hand! Clearly the article was captivating.. and if it were anything but the football scores he may have been forgiven n( Unfortunately he was not very engaging at first and I had to do most of the talking, perhaps a bit of training is needed in how to begin and carry conversations VS, as opposed to this trained to whisper nonsense?!?

Part of my conversation with him and the rest of the crew, that eventually came out of hiding, was their view on the aircraft. Ha ha, well for starters VS have not stacked the deck in their favour by removing the crew rest areas. That is bound to cause some discontent in the ranks. Although the main things that they took issue with was the quality with which everything had been put together (point proven when one of the CC pointed out the crack on the top of the bar!) and also the severe lack of space. For example the forward galley has 5 crew working it during a meal service and not only is it tight quarters, they are expected to move everything when a pax needs to use the forward restrooms!! Those VS designers on form again!

A part of me feels sorry for the crew, they must go through this all the time, although when they have to ask pax as to how Aeromobile works, I do find it a tad concerning (Remember that fellow I mentioned earlier? Yep, he was told to swipe his credit card on the IFE handset to activate the phone?!? Ha ha ha ha ha) Well done Cabin Crew training course!! (For those who are unfamiliar with the JAM handsets, they are not phones, and indeed don’t have a place to swipe the credit card, so who knows how he managed that one.) Needless to say, as I was propping up the bar, I set the record straight (again thanks v-flyer for this knowledge y) )

Crew had to carry on duties and so left me at the bar with another glass of whiskey.. oh dear. Must say I felt like a bit of an alcoholic, sitting there drinking on my lonesome but it was strangely relaxing watching the buzz of people wandering all over the place. Drink finished, back to the seat and back to JAM :)

A couple of service runs were made offering ice cream and drinks, for the most part people seemed fine though. Always nice to be asked. I for one fell asleep partly propped up against the “opaque” window. Poor fella in the seat next to me received a good long look at my ear I would imagine ):

Awoke to find them prepping for landing so gathered all my junk together and readied myself for the mad dash towards the JFK customs hall. Upon arrival queues were not too bad, there was no meandering snake around the corridors, although the desks were rather busy. I don’t quite know how people can misunderstand this .... Fill out the blue customs form before you reach the front of the queue and remove passport from protective sleeve/inside jacket pocket/portable safe or wherever you hide it! It would make this whole process much more speedy and I would avoid watching my bag through the glass wall as it goes around and around and around the conveyor belt..... All in all not the best time through the border, but by far not the worst either. Bag retrieved from its F1 circuits and off to Manhattan I go.

New UCS has potential, assuming the seats are functioning, however VS still need to address a few teething issues. Perhaps a change of design team to one that does not garner ideas from huffing the contents of a Pritt stick for starters? Joking aside, I think their main problem at the moment are the crews. With some good and some bad it shines a light on the massive inconsistency in their training! Have all the FSMs engaging the pax and actually leading their teams, as opposed to hiding in the galley or at the bar, granted they need a bit of down time but some of what I have seen on recent flights is truly ridiculous. It may also be an idea to have them properly trained on the aircraft functionality and take what they say into consideration. With the CC always in the air, surely that will give them a wealth of experience that VS should be tapping into??

Thanks for reading 8D
#821580 by buns
28 Aug 2012, 20:33
Thank you for such an authorative, funny and perceptive TR y) y)

As a frequent flyer your opinion counts in my book and one hopes that VS do start to sit up (if their seats work that is ): ) and take note with the shortcomings of the 330. Whether the situation is retrievable is of course debatable, but one can hope.

The lacklustre performance of the FSM on a route that is clearly designed for business travellers ( and presumably high revenue) is quite frankly shameful. Yes, some crew may not like the set up just as much as the passengers, but for goodness take it out on those whose custom you need to retain

Thanks for a brill TR

buns
#821586 by at240
28 Aug 2012, 21:23
Thanks for the TR y) I'm on the VS3 next week but I'm not looking forward to it that much.

From what you say, the FSM was sitting at the bar reading a newspaper? :0 Not impressed if so.
#821590 by simonallardice
28 Aug 2012, 21:33
Every conversation I've had with a CC member, or indeed an FSM, has at some point led to them talking about how much they hate the A330 - it really doesn't help matters with the crew going into a shift already dreading it just because of the equipment. Really, this is all Boeing's fault! ;)
#821612 by Jacki
29 Aug 2012, 02:27
Thanks for the TR - it really is false economy if the cabin is already showing signs of wear and tear :0
#821623 by Sealink
29 Aug 2012, 08:30
joeyc wrote:The LHR-NYC run is a regular route for me and I am sure you would all get pretty tired of reading my missives,


You haven't met us have you ? :D

(Great TR btw! More! More!)
#821632 by slinky09
29 Aug 2012, 09:23
Thank you for the very informative TR y) .

joeyc wrote:Dear lord they need to clean those things.. ever heard of a duster??


Cleaning issues seem to be popping up again (I've noticed this too recently, like the thick layer of gunk on the ridge above the loos on LHR 747s - I feel like taking a pack of Dettol wet wipes with me sometimes!

joeyc wrote:Menus were brought round by the FSM, who’s knack at communication was becoming apparent.. “Menu” is all that was said and not being sure if it was a question or a statement I just replied “Please” ...

I took a look at the CC chart and it had my name on there as well as frequent flyer number... come on CC, go that extra centimeter and personalise the service!!


Now that's just awful, especially after the recent hoo ha about enhanced service and how handing out menus is an opportunity to interact with passengers and recognize return fliers. Done well the FSM should have the passenger manifest in hand, refer to you by name, and know from your FC no. whether to offer a welcome back. When you see those charts on the galley wall with your name on it, and it's not used, you do get the feeling the crew is 'routine'. Mind you, as a top one the crew is supposed to get a special briefing about me before departure and sometimes I've known that they've got it, but no one has read it!

joeyc wrote:Those VS designers on form again!


Do feed back to VS, I do know that comments are passed to the design team and they are looking at what can be improved.
#821764 by horburyflyer
29 Aug 2012, 21:41
Thanks for sharing your experience with us - a good read but very disappointing that you had a seat which didn't convert into bed mode..... :(!

Do feedback your experience - I had a reply to my feedback from my poor flight recently on the VS4 from the "top man" himself which was welcomed and I know all feedback is being closely monitored y)

Yet again another experience from a poor FSM - no excuse at all to not use the information on board especially to welcome back a FF like yourself.... v( Do let VA know as I had the same thing on my flight recently and have been told that simply should not happen and will be addressed....time to make a stand me feels.

Thanks again

Jon
#821813 by joeyc
30 Aug 2012, 08:56
Wow, thanks for all the comments guys :D

Let's see if I can answer a few of the questions..

at240 wrote:From what you say, the FSM was sitting at the bar reading a newspaper? :0 Not impressed if so.


Yep, afraid he was.... as I said a bit of down time is fine, but to be sprawled across the bar ignoring pax v(

Tinuks wrote:As Mr. Ridgway is unlikely to answer soon, would that be the American one finger or the British two fingers? :-)


British Victory all the way :D

Sealink wrote:You haven't met us have you ? :D

(Great TR btw! More! More!)


Next time you are on an NYC run, places to look are at the bar in UC or madly typing away in PE :P Will keep the TRs coming whenever I can.

slinky09 wrote:Mind you, as a top one the crew is supposed to get a special briefing about me before departure and sometimes I've known that they've got it, but no one has read it!


Special briefing you say.. bit of a rowdy one on board are ya.. dettol wipes in hand I would imagine :P

slinky09 wrote:Do feed back to VS, I do know that comments are passed to the design team and they are looking at what can be improved.


Letter being put together this weekend (might leave the accusations of pritt stick related highs out though..) Will let y'all know if I get any response.

horburyflyer wrote:Do feedback your experience - I had a reply to my feedback from my poor flight recently on the VS4 from the "top man" himself which was welcomed and I know all feedback is being closely monitored ..


Excellent news Jon, as long as they made everything right by you is the main thing... will be sending a dandy letter to the dream factory in Crawley this weekend. Will no doubt let all know the reply (if any..)

Thanks again guys y)
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