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#822230 by baza
01 Sep 2012, 19:50
perhaps the peple that want to drink will fly PE.
At least cabin crew would have an easier time monitoring them.

I also think it will encourage people to take their own drink onboard. Whats to stop someone taking half a dozen mini bottles of vodka, whiskey etc on board.
As far as im aware secirity will let you take them through as they are less than the 100ml allowed.
#822231 by Penny_L
01 Sep 2012, 20:24
baza wrote:perhaps the peple that want to drink will fly PE.
At least cabin crew would have an easier time monitoring them.

I also think it will encourage people to take their own drink onboard. Whats to stop someone taking half a dozen mini bottles of vodka, whiskey etc on board.
As far as im aware secirity will let you take them through as they are less than the 100ml allowed.


even if in 100ml containers, you are limited to taking through security, especially if you have your toiletries etc in hand luggage as well.

I can see people buying their drink in duty free, or even flying to Vegas via SFO or LAX instead, which is exactly the route I take to avoid the stag/hen groups on the direct Gatwick flights.
#822232 by CHill710
01 Sep 2012, 20:34
Penny_L wrote:
even if in 100ml containers, you are limited to taking through security, especially if you have your toiletries etc in hand luggage as well.


I was behind a lady at LGW security last week who was quite upset when they told her she had to
1. place all of her liquids, gels, pastes, and makeup in a clear plastic bag

2. dispose of most of it as she had placed her entire collection in to 3 or 4 plastic bags and was only allowed one :0

do people still not know they cant take everything with them onboard.

- security do check so taking your own onboard will mean purchasing from duty free and having it delivered at the aircraft door so the crew will have a heads up to who to watch ;)
#822233 by caspaton
01 Sep 2012, 20:39
I forgot to mention. On VS43 in april my wife had 2x£100 vouchers from virgin, due to a valid complaint that we had to make on an NY flight.

We used all 200 on moet and grey goose from the onboard duty free. this was about 6 or 7 bottles. So, they are not that strict :-) we had one hell of a party in Vegas, but what Im saying is that we had access to all that while in UC + THE WHOLE BAR ;-)
#822234 by Penny_L
01 Sep 2012, 20:58
CHill710 wrote:
Penny_L wrote:
even if in 100ml containers, you are limited to taking through security, especially if you have your toiletries etc in hand luggage as well.


I was behind a lady at LGW security last week who was quite upset when they told her she had to
1. place all of her liquids, gels, pastes, and makeup in a clear plastic bag

2. dispose of most of it as she had placed her entire collection in to 3 or 4 plastic bags and was only allowed one :0

do people still not know they cant take everything with them onboard.

- security do check so taking your own onboard will mean purchasing from duty free and having it delivered at the aircraft door so the crew will have a heads up to who to watch ;)


I thought the duty free delivered to the aircraft door was only on departing the US not UK
#822236 by CHill710
01 Sep 2012, 21:16
Penny_L wrote:I thought the duty free delivered to the aircraft door was only on departing the US not UK


I may be corrected.
I never buy duty free as prices are similar to supermarkets nowadays especially with a family member working for ASDA and getting discount.
#822273 by PaulS
02 Sep 2012, 10:32
Silver Fox wrote:It will be interesting to see what behaviour this drives once word of the ban/trial/whatever gets around and people may decide "I have to get smashed before I get on the plane", or "Let's sneak alcohol in water bottles on". Unfortunately the crew may have to deal with a whole different set of issues, as well as other pax.



Totally agree a statute based ban for any fom of disruption or safety issue which should be supported by CCTV ( can't understand why aircraft don't have this and it could have been fitted during current refits) the knowledge that you wouldn't be able to fly anywhere if convicted with the min ban being 2 years may sober people up
#822277 by Hoppy
02 Sep 2012, 10:45
As a regular flyer on VS43 in Y and PE I have grave concerns about this change. A few flights ago sat in row 40ish on the first drinks run I was told that they had run out of Heineken before they got to me, so I do not believe for 1 second that the 4 drinks run will happen, VS just won't have capacity and the old excuse of 'we have to save half for the return leg' will be rolled out.
#822288 by PaulS
02 Sep 2012, 12:17
The only had four cans for the whole of UC on out MBJ flight in July so it's probably cost cutting. The theme of this post is controlling the selfish passengers who can't control heir behaviour through excess drink therefore causing this debate and spoiling it for the masses.
#822317 by willd
02 Sep 2012, 18:07
What I do think is VS should be stricter on boarding. It is illegal to board an aircraft drunk (and also be drunk on an aircraft, as pointed out by CC members on here).

It would be interesting to know how many of these groups are drunk on boarding. My limited experience of stag do's indicates that you drink all the way to the airport, at the airport and on the plane. Therefore it would seem logical that they will be drunk on boarding and therefore VS could refuse to board them.
#822329 by baza
02 Sep 2012, 19:35
Would it not be easier and fairer to ban groups travelling together much the same way as some holiday resorts wont let parties of all male or all female stay.

Why not sit large groups of people next to the galley where CC can keep an eye on them?
#822343 by Mandy Hall
02 Sep 2012, 21:20
honey lamb wrote:Won't happen now. EI charge for alcoholic drinks in Economy to the US


Unfortunately, alas we can't use the DUB route any longer anyway - or we could but it wouldn't be the seamless connection it once was as EI don't fly NCL-DUB any longer. Haven't for a few years I think. Because we were the last possible connection into that flight our bags came off first at JFK - even before the 'priority' baggage.
#822354 by honey lamb
02 Sep 2012, 23:18
Mandy Hall wrote: Because we were the last possible connection into that flight our bags came off first at JFK - even before the 'priority' baggage.

All connecting flights on EI seem to be the ones off first. I've noticed that in both Cork and Dublin. It seems to be the last bin loaded.

On flights which do not connect Aer John found that travelling on stand-by meant that his bag was the last in and first out :)
#822360 by baza
03 Sep 2012, 01:07
Mentioned the 4 drink limit to my wife tonight and she is all for it. As a tea total she hates being around people that have had too many.

Looks like im fighting a losing battle here too. ;)

Oh well, look forward to my "hi" from the LGW clubhouse in October....
#822370 by Ian6969
03 Sep 2012, 08:58
baza wrote:Mentioned the 4 drink limit to my wife tonight and she is all for it. As a tea total she hates being around people that have had too many.

Looks like im fighting a losing battle here too. ;)

Oh well, look forward to my "hi" from the LGW clubhouse in October....

LOL ^)
#822732 by JulianHJ
05 Sep 2012, 08:53
I'm flying on VS043 next month, and I welcome this news. The last thing I want is to be surrounded by drunk muppets for eight hours.
#822794 by baza
05 Sep 2012, 15:09
lol you might be on the same flight as me.
i wish it was just an 8hr flight. add another 2 on.
#822806 by HWVlover
05 Sep 2012, 17:21
Have I found new cabin crew for the VS43? She could drink all the onboard supplies on her own, thereby solving the problem!!!! ): ):
#822810 by MarkedMan
05 Sep 2012, 17:37
willd wrote:What I do think is VS should be stricter on boarding. It is illegal to board an aircraft drunk (and also be drunk on an aircraft, as pointed out by CC members on here).


100% with you. Like I said before, they have the legal means to do crowd control, they just don't want the hassle (or bad publicity) of enforcing it, so they're resorting to tinkering with rules that are odds on going to be unable to achieve anything.

I have a friend who absolutely dreads flying, yet she needs to make the trek from London to SoCal once a year or so for personal reasons - her strategy is to grab a bottle of vodka at Duty Free, get a window seat in Y and down some ambien and a good part of the bottle and sleep through the flight. Which she regularly manages to do, unhealthy and crazy as this is. Never once has anyone said anything to her about this behavior. Now, granted, if 100 folk pop open a bottle of vodka and start drinking it isn't going to go unnoticed; but what exactly is cabin crew going to do about it if folks do this, get the plane to land? They won't even kick people off the plane when they are obviously drunk boarding ...
#823057 by JulianHJ
07 Sep 2012, 14:49
baza wrote:lol you might be on the same flight as me.
i wish it was just an 8hr flight. add another 2 on.


Nice one, I'm on a Saturday flight. 10 hours of fun, I'd forgotten it was that long. Oh well, there's a few decent films on by the look of it. Here's hoping for a refit!
#853470 by flyingfox
04 Aug 2013, 14:10
Hi

Not at the front of the bus but they do make it clear in the announcement that consumption will be monitored etc

Thanks
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