Is it possible to use your own earphones on the LHR based A330's without an adaptor or will the sound only come out in one ear? Bit of a backwards step in my opinion - not had an aircraft ife system with those double plugs in years!
UC has the 2-pin sockets/jacks for headphones. I use my regular headphones without and issue with the sound.
If your headphones have noise cancelling technology, you need to turn it off, as the suite has noise cancelling built in. This maybe why you had the issue.
jwhite9185 wrote:Is it possible to use your own earphones on the LHR based A330's without an adaptor or will the sound only come out in one ear? Bit of a backwards step in my opinion - not had an aircraft ife system with those double plugs in years!
The noise cancelling tech in the UC headphones require power, which the second pin provides..
You can use normal single pin headphones without issue.
barg wrote:If your headphones have noise cancelling technology, you need to turn it off, as the suite has noise cancelling built in.
?| ?| ?| Sorry, but not true at all. The suite does not have noise cancelling built in - They are not like the soundproofed sleep pods they have in Japan, although there is an idea VS.. The suite provides power to their noise cancelling headphones via the second prong.
Just a note for the future regarding single pin headphones going into a double pin socket. In order to avoid sound only coming out of one headphone, do not put the pin all the way in - about 3/4s should do. Like magic, sound then comes out of both headphones. y)
I noticed that one of the prongs was a bit smaller - so this is just used for powering the noise cancelling feature then? Not sure why they have this in economy though unless it's something they might want to introduce noise cancelling headphones in the future.
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joeyc wrote:jwhite9185 wrote:Is it possible to use your own earphones on the LHR based A330's without an adaptor or will the sound only come out in one ear? Bit of a backwards step in my opinion - not had an aircraft ife system with those double plugs in years!
The noise cancelling tech in the UC headphones require power, which the second pin provides..
You can use normal single pin headphones without issue.barg wrote:If your headphones have noise cancelling technology, you need to turn it off, as the suite has noise cancelling built in.
?| ?| ?| Sorry, but not true at all. The suite does not have noise cancelling built in - They are not like the soundproofed sleep pods they have in Japan, although there is an idea VS.. The suite provides power to their noise cancelling headphones via the second prong.
Just a note for the future regarding single pin headphones going into a double pin socket. In order to avoid sound only coming out of one headphone, do not put the pin all the way in - about 3/4s should do. Like magic, sound then comes out of both headphones. y)
Yes, they absolutely have noise cancelling technology built in. This is why there are different headphones for UCS and new UCS. One has noise cancelling built in, the other doesn't. I've had it from the horses mouth.
barg wrote:Yes, they absolutely have noise cancelling technology built in. This is why there are different headphones for UCS and new UCS. One has noise cancelling built in, the other doesn't. I've had it from the horses mouth.
Whilst I am always open to be being corrected I still don't get it. We are talking about noise cancelling that is restricted just to the headphones, nothing to do with the ambiance of the new UC cabin? I believe that due to the more confined nature of available space the cabin should appear quieter. Not sure if that is what you are thinking about.
I have travelled in both, and recently.. the headphones dished out were exactly the same. Apologies if I have missed out on something there then(blame VS n( ), all news to me.
To which horses mouth are you referring? Not the VS PR machine that believes all glass is opaque I trust. ):
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jwhite9185 wrote:I noticed that one of the prongs was a bit smaller - so this is just used for powering the noise cancelling feature then? Not sure why they have this in economy though unless it's something they might want to introduce noise cancelling headphones in the future.
Yep, current noise cancelling tech requires power. I believe the nice Bose noise cancelling headphones have a rechargeable battery built in these days, but back in the olden times I used a good old trio of AAAs ha.


Not sure about the eco config, possibly something inbound. Or perhaps to give people the chance to use headsets they have appropriated from UC. ):
Before people jump on me asking about use of dual prongs being installed before noise cancelling tech was rolled out - probs also why older seats still have them.. Simple answer to prevent people walking off with the headphones.... I could also go on and on about the reasons that pneumatic headphones were preferred and hung around so long **cough** airlines lazy with maintenance **cough, cough** But won't

Again, take it from me that the new Upper Class Suite absolutely has noise cancellation built in. One of the prongs is noise cancellation related, the other is for sound. This may well be something that isn't being heavily promoted, but it is indeed entirely accurate, and the headphones are different.
barg wrote:One of the prongs is noise cancellation related, the other is for sound.
Ok so I am correct about the headphones, yay.

barg wrote:Again, take it from me that the new Upper Class Suite absolutely has noise cancellation built in.
In what capacity? and how? I am interested in this and none of my comments are meant to convey any kind of dismissal or disbelief

In the capacity that you don't need noise cancelling headphones onboard as the suite does it for you. It's built into the headphone socket.
There are two different types of headphones. Ones with noise cancellation for the 747 and A340, and ones without for the A330.
I believe it's designed for people bringing their own headphones, as that happens more often than not in J. You can use your own headphones if you plug them into the right socket, but, if it has it, you'll need to turn noise cancellation off, as it will counteract the suite. There is such a thing as too much noise cancellation.
That is all I know, but yes Joey, it is very much true.
There are two different types of headphones. Ones with noise cancellation for the 747 and A340, and ones without for the A330.
I believe it's designed for people bringing their own headphones, as that happens more often than not in J. You can use your own headphones if you plug them into the right socket, but, if it has it, you'll need to turn noise cancellation off, as it will counteract the suite. There is such a thing as too much noise cancellation.
That is all I know, but yes Joey, it is very much true.
ii)
Is this not a leap forward for noise cancelling tech? I wonder how it works.... any kind of cabin wide mics would have to take into account many factors.. too many actually, so I cannot see that method working very well unless they have installed secret listening equipment in all the seats :0 :0 and then that is fed back to something built into the IFE (and the top secret customer service recorders in Crawley ): ): )
I have got to ask, where are you getting this info from?
As you have already said it is not 'heavily promoted', or actually promoted at all on the VS site or even the specs of their seats... This is definitely something worth shouting about.
I really want to believe this... but am sceptical about the technology involved and VS getting along :w :w
barg wrote:In the capacity that you don't need noise cancelling headphones onboard as the suite does it for you. It's built into the headphone socket.
Is this not a leap forward for noise cancelling tech? I wonder how it works.... any kind of cabin wide mics would have to take into account many factors.. too many actually, so I cannot see that method working very well unless they have installed secret listening equipment in all the seats :0 :0 and then that is fed back to something built into the IFE (and the top secret customer service recorders in Crawley ): ): )
barg wrote:.... if it has it, you'll need to turn noise cancellation off, as it will counteract the suite. There is such a thing as too much noise cancellation.
I have got to ask, where are you getting this info from?
As you have already said it is not 'heavily promoted', or actually promoted at all on the VS site or even the specs of their seats... This is definitely something worth shouting about.
barg wrote:That is all I know, but yes Joey, it is very much true.
I really want to believe this... but am sceptical about the technology involved and VS getting along :w :w
I also noticed that the LHR A333's have a slightly different ife config to the pics I've seen of the LGW ones. There was no remote in economy - which I found wasn't that great as the touch screen wasn't all that brilliant - took me a good few attempts to adjust the volume.
jwhite9185 wrote:I also noticed that the LHR A333's have a slightly different ife config to the pics I've seen of the LGW ones. There was no remote in economy - which I found wasn't that great as the touch screen wasn't all that brilliant - took me a good few attempts to adjust the volume.
JAM doesn't have the fully touch screen remote in Eco at all. It only crops up in UC and PE - something to offer the premium cabins. It still should feature the less techy one though, not touch screen but allows people the option to not jab at the seat in front

Nothing from barg yet about his source...

G-VRAY and G-VNYC had no remote at all in economy.

I'd imagine G-VGBR is the same.
And my personal earphones worked a treat!

I'd imagine G-VGBR is the same.
And my personal earphones worked a treat!
jwhite9185 wrote:And my personal earphones worked a treat!
Did you notice the noise cancelling...


^^ ha ha ha...
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My apologies I thought that Eco retained the older handset controller.... how to people play games then???? It can't all be touch screen.. huh. n( n(

My apologies I thought that Eco retained the older handset controller.... how to people play games then???? It can't all be touch screen.. huh. n( n(
nkp85uk wrote:jwhite9185 wrote:And my personal earphones worked a treat!
Did you notice the noise cancelling...![]()
Cant say i did no!
barg wrote:In the capacity that you don't need noise cancelling headphones onboard as the suite does it for you. It's built into the headphone socket.
There are two different types of headphones. Ones with noise cancellation for the 747 and A340, and ones without for the A330.
I believe it's designed for people bringing their own headphones, as that happens more often than not in J. You can use your own headphones if you plug them into the right socket, but, if it has it, you'll need to turn noise cancellation off, as it will counteract the suite. There is such a thing as too much noise cancellation.
That is all I know, but yes Joey, it is very much true.
Sorry, but I don't think you understand the technology behind noise cancelling headphones. These headphones will try to counter the ambient noise in the area around you. How on earth can the ambient noise around you counter the ambient noise around you??? !!!
You may well have been told that the UC suite is equipped with technology for noise cancelling headphones, they may have even said to you that it was a noise cancelling suite.
Whoever told you this cannot have meant that the wholse suite is noise cancelling in itself, that is just not possible without a near airtight seal (al la noise cancelling headphones).
Hope that clears things up.
Cheers
Gerry
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