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#832659 by joeyc
16 Dec 2012, 22:25
Hev60 wrote: but everyone is entitled to voice their view and no-one's opinion is the right or wrong one.


**EDIT: The previous comment that I put in here was considered to be too insensitive by some for the current climate, as it was not my intention to cause any offence and to simply mock the fascist measures that some take to censor people's freedoms of speech, I have removed the reference to gun crime and move to replace it with the following....**

Whilst at first I moved to mock this sentiment with example of how some treat the simple freedoms of expression that many enjoy, upon reflection there is no way to do this without making light of many atrocities throughout history whereby one person or group have enforced their beliefs upon others with tragic consequence.

Even today, there are parts of this world that do not enjoy the liberties that many of us do and the unfortunate tool of much of this is the gun, the knife, the bomb, .. even the rocket (North Korea we are watching you.. )

Given the goal of this particular thread was to talk about 90 day seat maps, I shall not prattle on any further, however will say that yes Hev I have a comment/ an opinion on many a thing, as you stated everyone is entitled to voice their view and given the struggles for this right throughout history I am damn well going to.

So, in all sincerity, agreed y)

Neil wrote:It's like me and traveling UC. I've only been doing it since 2008, I know nothing of red cushions or flowers on the bar, nio even IFBT..


Ahhh In-Flight beauty treatments (IFBT) that was before I crossed the line into UC too, was stuck in lowly Eco and PE in those days :P Was a shame they were cut, when was that.. 2006?
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#832660 by Neil
16 Dec 2012, 22:30
Hev60 wrote:
The seating issue is purely based on personal opinion and there is unlikely to be a universal agreement, but everyone is entitled to voice their view and no-one's opinion is the right or wrong one.


Couldn't agree more :)
#832667 by Hev60
16 Dec 2012, 23:50
:? Joeyc. I'm not going to quote from your last post but in light of recent events, you might want to edit out your reference to a machine gun, even in the context as a joke it's not wise. Hev
#832670 by honey lamb
17 Dec 2012, 00:24
Hev60 wrote::? Joeyc. I'm not going to quote from your last post but in light of recent events, you might want to edit out your reference to a machine gun, even in the context as a joke it's not wise. Hev

My thoughts exactly
#832671 by honey lamb
17 Dec 2012, 00:30
joeyc wrote:Ahhh In-Flight beauty treatments (IFBT) that was before I crossed the line into UC too, was stuck in lowly Eco and PE in those days :P Was a shame they were cut, when was that.. 2006?

It was in 2008. I flew from Dubai the day before a meeting at which the decision was made to end the service and we had no IFBT on board :(
#832683 by PaulS
17 Dec 2012, 12:21
and equally, there are thousands who do care about advance seating allocation.

So much so EasyJet have altered to allow pre booking if seating.

The only fair way is to revert back to the first come first served or and I don't personally care adopt the alternative system like BA where if it matters you can pay and if your no bothered like Neil you can have your choice free at OLCI
#832696 by DocRo
17 Dec 2012, 20:33
Call me cynical but I reckon Easyjet spotted an untapped revenue stream there rather than responding to huge customer demand.
#832699 by Neil
17 Dec 2012, 20:59
DocRo wrote:Call me cynical but I reckon Easyjet spotted an untapped revenue stream there rather than responding to huge customer demand.


Indeed, it's not an option, you have to pay to choose your seat, guaranteed money.
#832702 by PaulS
17 Dec 2012, 21:35
DocRo wrote:Call me cynical but I reckon Easyjet spotted an untapped revenue stream there rather than responding to huge customer demand.


I knew about this several months prior due to knowing a senior pilot at EasyJet. Whilst it is a money stream, it's was more in response to customer surveying where seat allocation constantly appeared as top of their wish list. I have no problems with airlines maximising their income stream, as after all its does not matter how you mash up the ticket it's the final total to pay that counts. Therefore if VS sees this an a possible income stream so be it, but at least offer it.
#832704 by Hev60
17 Dec 2012, 22:23
PaulS wrote:
The only fair way is to revert back to the first come first served or and I don't personally care adopt the alternative system like BA where if it matters you can pay and if your not bothered like Neil you can have your choice free at OLCI


Good point.

I remember when BA introduced the charging system for booking an advance seat, there was a great deal of anger. However it is personal choice. If you do not want to pay, then wait until OLCI. Also I say again if you're in UC, then it is not such an issue to more or less 'guarantee your seat'.

Crickey, all airlines get cash by any means possible these days and I am amazed VS have not gone down the 'pay to book your seat in advance' route, yet ):
#832708 by Hev60
17 Dec 2012, 22:43
Yes Penny, I think VS are the only airline which does not give passenger the choice of booking (and paying)for a 'preferred' seat in advance.

It was mentioned on here a while back about US Airways and their preferred seats. But someone pointed out there was nothing special about 'preferred' seating only that you get a choice to book/pay for those kind seats (normally towards the front of the plane). Once OLCI opens, any preferred seating which has not already been taken will just be available as normal :)
#832713 by lee997
18 Dec 2012, 04:46
Mine was open well before the 90 day window. I just was sitting at home and on the off chance decided to have a quick look at my booking and to my suprise those magic words were staring right at me!
Almost every seat in economy was free to choose from :) This was about 10 or so days before the 90 days so my advice is just keep checking.
I do think UC and PE should be exempt from this and should be available the moment you book.
#832720 by clarkeysntfc
18 Dec 2012, 11:17
StillRedHot wrote:Seating - whether requested or not - is never guaranteed anyway.


Oh well that's alright then.
#832721 by PaulS
18 Dec 2012, 11:39
AA free on business and above plus various levels of their FC can select preferred or main cabin extra. It's just about having the option choose that I believe the majority should have. Perhaps we could in the near future have a V-Flyer survey on the points raised regularly on this forum as the majority on us are of have been loyal flyers for many years and the results could be then fed back into VS
#833071 by joeyc
23 Dec 2012, 01:18
honey lamb wrote:
Hev60 wrote::? Joeyc. I'm not going to quote from your last post but in light of recent events, you might want to edit out your reference to a machine gun, even in the context as a joke it's not wise. Hev

My thoughts exactly


Huh, sorry guys, been offline lately and just catching up on posts from the past week.

Genuinely did not cross my mind in that light and whilst my heart definitely goes out to the Sandy Hook victims I genuinely do not see how my comment could be seen as a callous dig at the senseless murder of children and their teachers. ?|

However, as it clearly has caused unintentional offence with you guys I shall make a small edit.
#833118 by Silver Fox
23 Dec 2012, 19:05
joeyc wrote:
honey lamb wrote:
Hev60 wrote::? Joeyc. I'm not going to quote from your last post but in light of recent events, you might want to edit out your reference to a machine gun, even in the context as a joke it's not wise. Hev

My thoughts exactly


Huh, sorry guys, been offline lately and just catching up on posts from the past week.

Genuinely did not cross my mind in that light and whilst my heart definitely goes out to the Sandy Hook victims I genuinely do not see how my comment could be seen as a callous dig at the senseless murder of children and their teachers. ?|

However, as it clearly has caused unintentional offence with you guys I shall make a small edit.


I am with you. I read it and did not suffer a breakdown.
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