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#902696 by spacedog
06 May 2015, 20:45
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A summary of our trip prior to our return flight! After spending time in San Francisco and San Jose for a work convention, we rented a car in order to drive down the PCH. The weather was rather overcast and windy, but this didn't dampen our spirits as the views along the way really are stunning. The first day we were aiming for the half way point of San Luis Obispo, so we had a leisurely drive. We stopped at Carmel, a beautiful and rather expensive looking seaside town, for an excellent lunch. We then continued our drive, and on the way spotted a whale, stopped to see the elephant seals (man, they stink!) and even saw the herd of zebras from Hearst Castle running in the field along the road.

Here's a quick instagram shot from one of the viewing points we stopped at along the way: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot ... e=55D9127C

And here are those elephant seals. Fortunately for all of you, the technology to transit a smell through a photograph has yet to be invented: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 563f99ed62

Our destination for that day, as previously mentioned, was San Luis Obispo. Whilst the fact that it's roughly half way between LA and San Francisco makes it an attractive option for an overnight stay, I was extremely excited because we'd booked a couple of nights at the famous (infamous??) Madonna Inn. I'm sure some of you may have been before, but for those who haven't, the Madonna Inn is a themed hotel with over 100 rooms, all of which have individual themes and decor. If you love kitsch, and a hotel that looks like it was lovingly designed as a collaboration between David Lynch and Dolly Parton, this is the place for you. If your idea of fun and luxury is minimalist chic, then you'd probably have an aneurysm after walking through the front doors.

As we were staying two nights I decided to book two very different rooms for us. We stayed in the Austrian Suite on the first night (the room was so big and even had two balconies!) and a room called the Love Nest on the second night. The hotel has a fantastic steak house and bar, plus a lovely cafe that was great for breakfast and lunch. The also make their own rather spectacular cakes on site--too sweet for me, but they look rather amazing.

The entrance to the Madonna Inn: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 9efb9c5bf4

The Austrian Suite: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 4aa14db16a

The bed in the Austrian Suite: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot ... e=55C2DBAA

The Love Nest (the spiral staircase leads to a small platform in a turret that services as a private viewing turret so you can see the beautiful landscape around): https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot ... e=55D05046

Another view of the Love Nest: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot ... e=55C9F767

The restaurant: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... fc922b61ad

The staff were excellent and we were treated very well during our stay. They have postcards of all the rooms which you can buy, but when you leave they give you a free postcards of whichever room(s) you stayed in! We loved it and will be back again when time permits.

After two wonderful days, we continued our drive down to LA. The weather was a little better and it was a fairly uneventful drive. We stayed in Malibu with friends for a few blissful days.

On Monday our flight was scheduled for 10pm, so being about an hour's drive away from the airport we set off at about 6pm just in case of traffic. We needn't have worried as we arrived in fairly good time, dropped off the rental car and got the shuttle to the terminal. It was at the check-in desk that we encountered a girl so unhelpful and humourless that I still marvel at the fact she is gainfully employed. There was no queue, but the UC check-in desk was busy as a family travelling seemed to be having an issue; it was taking them a long time to check in and they were taking up both sides of the UC check-in desk. Eventually, we were motioned towards the PE check-in desk. The girl working there didn't say a word, just put out her hand for our documents. She never once smiled, and any question we asked seemed to cause her some sort of physical pain that she was unable to mask. One of our bags weighed 26kg (the limit in Upper is 32kg, versus 23kg in Y). She didn't mark it as heavy which I thought odd and we worried about it afterwards, but it was swept away so quickly for screening that I didn't get time to say anything. I can only assume putting a sticker on a bag was a job too tedious for her to contemplate. She did offer us the choice of the Virgin America Lounge or the Air Canada lounge (although made it quite clear that she didn't care what we decided). We opted for AC as it was in the same terminal, and we weren't planning on drinking, so the lack of alcohol wasn't an issue. After writing out the invitation to the AC lounge, she handed it to us and then turned away. Wow!! I think in our entire interaction she maybe uttered ten words.

We were then off to security. They can be a bit terse at security in LAX, but as I went through queues and screening I had three separate security guards compliment me on my hair colour! Really nice :) Security took ages because they were training a member of staff, so despite no queue it took about 25-30 minutes to get through. However, once we'd gather our belongings, we were off to find the Air Canada lounge. I had tried to manage my husband's expectations having read poor reviews of it and perhaps did almost too good a job, as once we were through security he suggested skipping the lounge in favour of a sandwich in the terminal. As the terminal was in SUCH a state due to the building work going on, I felt that we ought to at least check out the lounge to weigh up our options. On our way to it, we walked past the new VS Clubhouse--opening the following day! We felt a bit sad to have missed it by one measly day, but, no matter... we'll be back to enjoy it in July :)

We got a fairly warm welcome at the AC lounge. OK, a Clubhouse it ain't! It's a bit spartan and very serious. But it was quiet, there was plenty of comfortable seating, the bathrooms were spotless and there was more food on offer than we expected. Their self service buffet was sufficient, and I had pretty tasty wheatberry salad and some cheese, while my OH had a sandwich with cold cut meats. We chatted, checked e-mails and before we knew it, they were making the first call for boarding.

We set off straight away as we like to get settled in our seats before it gets busy. When we arrived at the gate it was fairly quiet as most PAX had boarded, bar UC passengers who were still in the lounges. At the gate there were the usual two queues, one for priority boarding and one for regular. As it was fairly quiet both were being used by Y passengers. One queue wasn't moving at all as someone was having some sort of issue. The other queue was also at a standstill because the member of staffing manning it had his back to us and was ensconced in a conversation with another passenger. We thought he hadn't realised we were there, but after waiting for a couple of minutes, without turning to face us he extended his arm behind him towards us with his hand out for our documents. My husband passed him his boarding pass and passport and he STILL didn't acknowledge that we were standing there. After another few moments he finished his conversation and finally turned to look at us. Instead of saying hello, he looked at my husband's passport, made a strange, almost disparaging remark about the city he was born in, and waved him on without another word. When it was my turn, he also didn't greet me, but did ask how we'd found the Air Canada lounge. I remarked that it was nicer than I expected, and he responded with "Oh, I've heard it's quite shit." Hmmmn. I wasn't really impressed with his whole attitude.

We boarded and decided to switch seats, so that this time I was in 5K and my OH was in 4K. The FSM manager was around and came and introduced himself to a few people, but missed me :( However, he was redeemed when soon after take off he stopped by to apologise profusely for not having introduced himself before, and chatted to me for a couple of minutes. He seemed genuinely interested in what I had to say and for the rest of the flight almost seemed to single me out for good treatment (not above and beyond anyone else, but he just seemed to want to make sure I was happy). Might have been something to do with the questionnaire on my seat? :) Regardless, his service was good, although my partner and I both noticed that whilst he was very prominent in the service role in the cabin, most of the other cabin crew were quite absent for most of the flight.

The food on the outbound was great! On the inbound it was pretty ordinary. Neither of us can remember what starters we had. My husband thinks he had chicken for his main, and that it was OK. I had the red Thai curry... also just "OK." We skipped dessert and decided to bed down for the night immediately, as the meal service seemed to take a really long time (it was at least two and a half hours after take off by the time everything was cleared from our tables).

We like to be self sufficient and made up our beds very quickly. My OH slept soundly for most of the flight. He used the earplugs which he said really helped. Sadly, I can't get them in my ears, so have to do without. I was very tired, but a child throwing a tantrum kept waking me (please note, I have no issues with crying children if they're distressed and parents are trying to soothe them, but children that are shouting because they're not getting their own way and who are not being dealt with effectively ARE on my list of things I do not enjoy on long flights). Between the shouting and some light but constant turbulence I didn't sleep much at all.

We opted for breakfast prior to landing. I'd selected porridge and fruit, both of which were fine. We landed and disembarked very quickly. We made a swift beeline for immigration and beat all the queues; we were through the automated machines in just a minute or two. Our bags took another 15 minutes or so. We then left for a hotel (we booked an overnight at the Doubletree down the road as we knew my OH wouldn't be ready for a 4 hour drive after a long flight). Upon arriving in our room, we noticed that the heavy bag that hadn't been marked as such had been quite badly damaged; it must have been thrown and landed on one wheel, as the wheel had been pushed in, denting the bottom corner of the bag and creating a large hole. Fortunately nothing inside was damaged, but the bag will need to be replaced. I wonder if a heavy tag would have avoided this? Perhaps not, but it's irritating nonetheless because we were dealt with so poorly by the staff at check-in.

Interestingly, a day later I called FC to get our miles and TPs credited to our accounts, as we'd been booked on M>G tickets. The gentleman I spoke to I'm certain I've dealt with before, and he was amazing both times. He asked about how our UC experience was, and I told him the outbound flight was fantastic! He laughed and said he was happy to hear that, but said that by not mentioning the inbound he wondered if that one wasn't so great. I briefly surmised the points made here about the really poor ground staff (although was keen to mention the very good FSM), and he apologised for the poor experience on the ground. He said that he and other members of the FC helpdesk are starting to notice a pattern; that generally the outbound flights get rave reviews, but the inbounds are letting the side down. Apparently poor ground staff and inattentive crew on overnight flights are an issue. I said that despite a few issues the flight had still been very good and I didn't want to make an official complaint, but he seemed to take what I said very seriously.

Anyway! Sorry this was so long :) My next TR instalment will be when we return from Shanghai in a couple of weeks. Thanks for reading!
#902703 by classybird
06 May 2015, 21:40
Wow, excellent TR. The Madonna Inn hotel looks fantastic. The one thing I love about travelling, is experiencing new things, namely country, culture, people and events etc. Memories of these things can last a long time (unless senility sets in ;( then you have to experience them all over again;) Shame about the inbound service at the airport - I have yet to come across a happy chappie at the US airports I've been to. Look forward to your Shanghai TR. Hope that goes well.

Anna
#902704 by Hev60
06 May 2015, 21:52
Spacedog. Very good informative TR. Actually very similar UC return experience as ourselves, which you could be reading sometime later!!!

Your photos of that Madonna Hotel are amazing, such a unique place compared to the 'norm' of US hotel rooms.

Glad you liked Carmel - it was such a different little town to say Monterey just a few minutes up the coast. It was a bit pricey (hotel & restaurants) but we found the whole of California to be like that on this trip.

We saw seals from a state park near Carmel called Point Lobos. The park had wonderful views and many easy coastal trails you could walk to see the seals, whale coves and fantastic views(through the mist!!) Unfortunately I haven 't got a clue how to upload photos like yourself ii)

We also experienced the same disinterest from both ground staff and cabin staff :? Food on board also very ordinary too. Shame about your luggage being damaged.

I've actually emailed FC about our missing AirMiles so think I will phone them tomorrow. Those comments re outbound vs inbound flight experiences are interesting. Did your comments on the Survey reflect your feelings?

Even though you had a few niggles, like we did, overall the UC experience is still a comfortable way to fly y)
#902706 by hazban
06 May 2015, 22:13
Entertaining and interesting report. Personnel at some airports can seem very uninterested when dealing with the people who are effectively paying their wages. Sometimes I could hit them over the head with my newspaper, but I shudder to think of the consequences!
What colour is your hair, perhaps I should consider a tint if it will help speed my progress through security?
#902710 by Petmadness
06 May 2015, 23:08
What a fabulous TR Spacedog, thanks for taking the time to post it y) I have confessed my love on here for that stretch of the Californian coast, such tremendous beauty, wildlife and panoramic views.....must....go.....back ):

It is a huge shame that the agent & handling team made no effort to make a positive start to your journey and it seems that the CC may have partied just that little bit too hard in LA though the FSM redeemed a little faith.

A pleasure to read oo)
#902711 by Bretty
06 May 2015, 23:36
Spacedog, an excellent TR, shame about the ground crew and the niggles on the flight. I think that Crawley Towers needs some feedback, if not a complaint.

Now let's talk about that hotel girl, it looks like it was bombed by a drag queen! The love nest... how did your husband cope with all that pink! It certainly looked quirky and fun but I have read a few posts on here that rate the hotel well. Glad you enjoyed it.
#902719 by ScoobySu
07 May 2015, 08:34
Thank you Spacedog for another super report & review. As Bretty says the ground crew certainly let you down and it seems as if that's an ongoing trend/issue.

Our return flight from SFO was just as good as the outbound (yes I will finish the review once month end is complete).

ScoobySu
#902729 by julmops
07 May 2015, 10:37
Thanks for the TR ! Very interesting read. We were flying back from LAX in January on the VS8 and the check-in people couldn't have been more friendly. I had managed a G for my partner and was hoping for another one at check-in but unfortunately it wasn't to be... They were so nice and apologetic for something they had no power on, it was very nice indeed as I was quite disappointed ... I agree that Terminal 2 is a complete mess at the moment but with most of the international carriers gone to other terminals, immigration queues are kept to a minimum, which is certainly a bonus !
#902754 by whiterose
07 May 2015, 18:49
Thank you Spacedog for a really fabulous TR. I love reading about flights but it's also really interesting to hear something of what people did while they were away. Fabulous photos and the Madonna Inn....words fail me! How did your OH cope with all the frills, kitsch and pink?

I wonder why ground staff at US airports are so surly and uncomnunicative, it damages one's experience but also it reflects badly on the airline.

Real pain about your damaged luggage, the handlers do seem to throw suitcases from a height onto concrete.

Thanks again, really loved the fabulous TR.
#902759 by pjh
07 May 2015, 19:26
To add a "+1" to the other comments, a great TR.

Like you I was a bit underwhelmed by the night flight menu. Tasty, but limited. Your experience with the "hello" from the FSM shows how it's the recovery that matters. I had the same on our flight back from NYC where there were some (really first world) issues and the FSM had to dash off as we were taking off, throwing a "I'll be back" over his shoulder as he dashed off. My cynical thought of "yeah, right" was confounded when he reappeared as promised. :|

Your pictures of the Madonna Inn made me smile. We had coffee there on our first US road trip back in the late 90's and were...astounded. Glad to hear that the kitsch image is backed up by solid service.

Paul
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