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#944965 by Silver Fox
08 Jul 2018, 20:48
What was the email address that the email comes from please? I should do a search to see if I can find one that I may have accidentally deleted - but I cannot see anything at all.
#944966 by gumshoe
08 Jul 2018, 21:14
Same address as the monthly Well Red newsletter comes from. If you don’t get that you may not be opted in to Flying Club marketing, in which case you won’t receive or qualify for the bonus offer.

[email protected]

The subject is “Your New Favourite Credit Card. By Miles”.
#944967 by mitchja
08 Jul 2018, 21:27
I've not had a single offer email here and I signed up for the new VS card on day 1, so it does look like these offers are targeted, just not sure what it's based on though?

Possibly monthly spend - I don't spend a huge amount here every month, often less than < £10 some months if it's nothing more than my monthly Netflix subscription.
#944975 by International Hitman
09 Jul 2018, 07:51
gumshoe wrote:Same address as the monthly Well Red newsletter comes from. If you don’t get that you may not be opted in to Flying Club marketing, in which case you won’t receive or qualify for the bonus offer.

[email protected]

The subject is “Your New Favourite Credit Card. By Miles”.


Same email address as above but my subject line was "Exclusive offer when you sign up to the new Virgin Atlantic credit card"

I currently spend 5K - 10K a month [business expenses helps!] and email looks targeted --- the terms for applying state

"you must have received a personalised email or letter from Virgin Atlantic inviting you to take part in this bonus Flying Club miles offer (the “Offer”). This Offer is not transferable."
#944980 by chrisfinch_2000
09 Jul 2018, 13:53
I got one too and given timing of when it was received, I’m sure it was purely for acquisition (as I wasn’t planning on signing up for the new card!)

Anyone who had already signed up for the new card I suspect wouldn’t be eligible (as there’s no need for VS to offer further promotions if they have already acquired you!)

The rest of the criteria seem to be whether you had : opted into marketing, had the black card, were regularly using it, and then tailored Miles bonus dependant on average monthly spend...
#944981 by gumshoe
09 Jul 2018, 16:14
No, the offer was deliberately targeted both at people who had and hadn’t signed up for the new VM cards.

The latter obviously to encourage them to sign up, the former presumably to incentivise them to actually use the card day-to-day (rather than use it once to trigger the 15k bonus then switch most of their spending to a rival Amex card).
#944984 by preiffer
10 Jul 2018, 08:00
chrisfinch_2000 wrote:I got one too and given timing of when it was received, I’m sure it was purely for acquisition (as I wasn’t planning on signing up for the new card!)

Anyone who had already signed up for the new card I suspect wouldn’t be eligible (as there’s no need for VS to offer further promotions if they have already acquired you!)

The rest of the criteria seem to be whether you had : opted into marketing, had the black card, were regularly using it, and then tailored Miles bonus dependant on average monthly spend...

My 18k offer was received yesterday - already had the 15k signup bonus from months back. Wasn't regularly using my old black card. On that basis, I'm not sure those predicted criteria are quite right ;-)
#945007 by Silver Fox
10 Jul 2018, 22:00
gumshoe wrote:Same address as the monthly Well Red newsletter comes from. If you don’t get that you may not be opted in to Flying Club marketing, in which case you won’t receive or qualify for the bonus offer.

[email protected]

The subject is “Your New Favourite Credit Card. By Miles”.


Thanks. I do get Well Red, and searching on that in my mail yields nothing. I spend over £1000 every month easily as I use it for work expenses. Very odd. But then again we do know Virgin's IT is not the best.
#945013 by DoomWolf
11 Jul 2018, 15:13
mitchja wrote:Even if you do find the secure message system, don’t except a response any time soon.

Not impressed with VM’s credit card customer service.

I rang a few weeks ago to cancel my other VM credit card now I have the VS card. After being sat in a call queue for over 15 minutes after finally negotiating their utterly ridiculous call centre menu system, I was assured this had been done. Turns out it hadn’t.

I tried sending a secure message requesting the same thing, that’s has still not been responded to now even after over 2 weeks.

It took yet another phone a few days ago to do something which should be so simple to do and should have been done the first time I requested it.

I fully agree about VM’s online account access being poor at best and there’s still no sign of ApplePay or even an app to access your account.

As I had 2 different cards issued by VM, it requires 2 completely seperate online accounts whereas MBNA did at least show you multiple cards using the same online account as well back when I had the BMI and VS cards both issued by MBNA.


I'm also not impressed with their customer service and I'm not yet a customer!

It's now three weeks since I applied and it went "to review". The email said I'd have a reply in 5 working days, which was also what I was told when I first called them a couple of days later. On the second time I called, after the 5 days had passed, I was told 10 working days. When that passed last week and I called again (last Friday), I was put on hold while the agent spoke to their underwriting team and was told someone would look at it that day and I would get an email early this week. Now Wednesday afternoon, still nothing.
#945014 by mitchja
11 Jul 2018, 16:13
After I had a moan at VM on Twitter about this, to be fair to them, I did get a phone call from them apologising.

The excuse they are using for 'longer than normal' call wait times is the VS card launch. I suspect it's caught them off-guard.
#945049 by Solarm
14 Jul 2018, 08:48
Just received a lovely gift box from Mr Branson, asking me to take up the offer for the new miles card.
What he didn't explain was why I was rejected for the card when it first came out >-( . Bearing in mind I have had a black card for years and last years spend was over 200K ! Moved over to Amex and can now choose where I now spend my miles now. Opened up a BA account and Delta that gets US internal flights for lower spend than using Virgin Miles :cool: .
#945073 by notoverthehill
16 Jul 2018, 11:12
I had 'apply and get 6000 miles per month with £1k spend for 3 months' offer in the post on Friday. Had the same by email on 19th June.

Interestingly I have had the card since late April - no bonus miles have materialised. I wonder if I'll be able to persuade them to apply the offer to my account??
#945075 by gumshoe
16 Jul 2018, 12:15
If you’ve had the email you should get the miles!

But AFAIK there are three qualifying periods, the first of which didn’t start until June 18th and doesn’t end until at least a month after that (depending on your statement date).

So I wouldn’t expect to see any bonus miles until your first statement after July 18th. It’ll be interesting to see whether they actually appear ...
#945076 by mallin
16 Jul 2018, 12:55
I have had e-mails galore inviting me to sign up for the new cc, The big red box and personal e-mails. I have got referred when applied over the weekend.
So shall see what transpires, expect my incomings are not going to be enough as I only have a small pension. Linda :D
#945085 by DoomWolf
17 Jul 2018, 13:35
It's four weeks tomorrow since my application and still no answer. It takes over 15 mins to get through on the phone and then they have to call and speak to the underwriting team while I hold further. Apparently my application has now been referred to a separate 'senior underwriting team'. It makes a mockery of their website's promise of an instant decision if you apply online.
#945087 by gumshoe
17 Jul 2018, 14:16
But as you acknowledged yourself upthread you had, through no fault of your own, a poor credit rating.

Maybe not poor enough to trigger an instant ‘computer says no’, but presumably not good enough to give an instant yes. And VM would be guilty of serious negligence - and probably find themselves being investigated by the FCA - if they instantly approved every customer who applied.

So there will always be cases where human intervention is required to make a judgement call and - like most companies that rely on a high degree of automation - I imagine there’s a backlog of cases and not enough people to deal with them.

Sure, the process could and should be quicker, but wouldn’t you rather a real person looked at your case and made a reasoned judgement call (even if it’s a no) than rely on a computer algorithm that doesn’t know or care about your unique circumstances?
#945091 by locutus
17 Jul 2018, 18:47
My credit rating is fine according to the various sites with their made up scores, but the Virgin Money card checker says no, so I won't bother applying.
#945095 by DoomWolf
17 Jul 2018, 23:43
gumshoe wrote:But as you acknowledged yourself upthread you had, through no fault of your own, a poor credit rating.

Maybe not poor enough to trigger an instant ‘computer says no’, but presumably not good enough to give an instant yes. And VM would be guilty of serious negligence - and probably find themselves being investigated by the FCA - if they instantly approved every customer who applied.

So there will always be cases where human intervention is required to make a judgement call and - like most companies that rely on a high degree of automation - I imagine there’s a backlog of cases and not enough people to deal with them.

Sure, the process could and should be quicker, but wouldn’t you rather a real person looked at your case and made a reasoned judgement call (even if it’s a no) than rely on a computer algorithm that doesn’t know or care about your unique circumstances?


I agree that it’s better for a human to look at the application and make the decision, but it’s the constant shifting timescale that I find annoying. The website wording says “instant decision” and doesn’t have any qualification on that statement as far as I can see. Then the email I received said 5 working days, which I was also told in a phone call. On the next phone call it became 10 working days. When that had passed I was told someone would look at it that day. It’s now 20 working days. If they have a backlog that long, then they really need to address staffing issues.

Incidentally, their eligibility checker (which I had Google for as the link on their site seems to have disappeared) still says no despite the issue with my credit rating being sorted, so maybe they just don’t want me anyway. ;-)
#945119 by mallin
19 Jul 2018, 11:02
Well I got refused for the new VS credit card, so no way of earning miles that way.

Although I only have a small pension, I do pay off all my cards each month, they just said apply again in six months if your position changes.

I mainly collect with BA anyway as they have so much more routes and have always got the option of converting my Tesco points. Linda
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