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#955201 by Martin5192
22 Mar 2020, 19:04
Sorry to use this as a personal help question but not sure where else to turn. Still in South Africa after daughters wedding last week which fortunately went ahead. Not due to leave from JNB till 26th and received an email from Virgin telling us flight is cancelled. No further info since and they are totally uncontainable by anymeans from here or via family in theUK.
Question I would like to ask is if all the airlines stop flying as Emirates have announced today who would take responsibility for us, accommodation etc. Insurers are saying it’s the airlines who have to deal with us..
Can anyone advise ?.
Thank you.
#955203 by mitchja
22 Mar 2020, 19:13
Your travel insurance should still cover you just as long as that insurance policy was in place before any of this started.

For example, I bank with Nationwide and my packaged current account includes annual travel insurance. They sent me an email the other day stating that because the insurance policy was in place already, any of my travel I'd already booked before March 18th would still be covered.

It's only if I make any more travel plans on or after March 18th then those will now no longer be covered because this is now a 'known event'.

Obviously other insurance providers will have their own rules but many should be following this similar system.
#955205 by TimCrawley
22 Mar 2020, 23:49
Sorry to hear about your predicament - with flight schedules narrowing daily even the VS schedule posted by Flyingfox in a parallel thread on 19th March may already have been cut further (see below) so you really need to be hanging on the phone to the local 24 hour reservations line ( Reservations: +27 11 340 3400 (Open 24/hours day)) from RIGHT NOW until it is answered as there may still be room on the flights back on 23rd and 24th (if either is still operating) but they have nothing more scheduled 25th, 26th or 27th & it would be a brave man predicting any flights at all after that beyond country-led emergency flights like those announced for UK folks stranded in Peru!

I'm sure everyone on here will be wishing you luck but please worry less about insurance and concentrate on getting a flight home. I urge you to get on the phone to Virgin and stay on it until they answer, you are close enough to the 72 hours and they are caught up a bit more now at VS (still very busy but not totally swamped) so you will not be behaving selfishly by preventing someone more needy from getting through on the phone.

Re: Covid 19 Thoughts on the likely actions in the weeks to
#955135 by flyingfox
19 Mar 2020, 19:30
From VS trade flying schedule 20th - 27th March

As of 15.30 on Thursday 19 March 2020, our schedule to 27 March 2020 is planned as below but this is subject to change without notice, especially with government restrictions being implemented

LHR - LAX VS23/24
LHR - SFO VS41 20/21 VS42 20/21/22
LHR - JFK VS3/4
LHR - JFK VS25 20/24 VS26 20/23/24/25
LHR - JFK VS137/138 20/21/22/23/24/25
LHR - ATL VS103/104 20/21/22/23/24/25
LHR - HKG VS206/207 20/22/24/27
LHR - JNB VS461/462 20
LHR - JNB VS449/450 20/21/23/24
LHR - LOS VS411/412
#955277 by Martin5192
26 Mar 2020, 19:05
Pleased to say I am posting this from home.
Probably the most stressful week of my life following one of the happiest time in life seeing my daughter get married in Camps Bay ,South Africa.
About a week ago received a blunt email from Virgin telling us our flight had been cancelled on the 26/3. No offer of another flight just a link for them to contact us whilst away.
When travelling like most people I always use Whatsapp to keep int touch obviously needing WiFi to do that. This was the first time in an emergency that I have needed a phone. Virgin not answering email or texts so had to purchase a phone and credit from Vodacom. Spent more time and money on trying to get in touchwith Virgin than anything else on the holiday across the Garden Route.
With the announcement of South Africa shutting down at midnight tonight the stress levels were rising. Freinds in the UK were also trying to contact Virgin. They after 2 hours got through but call Center wouldn’t deal with them as they where not travelling >-(
On Sunday I gave up with Virgin and booked flights with Emirates at our own expense. The next morning an email arrived telling us it was cancelled. No other flights to the UK where available.
On Tuesday for some reason I looked at my mobile Virgin app which I don’t regularly use. Great news :-D I found they had booked us on the last Virgin flight out of SA on Wednesday night. Never thought to look at the app as I was looking for an email like the cancelled flight.
Our last week had been spent travelling across the Garden Route stopping in Hermanus, Knysna, Natures Valley and last night in Port Elizabeth. I must add what a beautiful country South Africa is .Just a pity we couldn’t really enjoy it due to the worry. But I would most defiantly return again.
So ready to fly from Port Eliz airport and went to do online check in the day before for our BA connecting flight to JNB. Stress levels rise as it will not let us do it and tells us to check in at airport. No problems checking in with Virgin though.
Flight from PE was at 1530 but we arrived at 9am to hope to get on an earlier flight if possible just so we could ensure we would get to JNB as our afternoon flight was the last one out. At the checkin stress level rose again and near panick for wife when told they could see us on the system but Virgin had not re booked us, and I needed to speak to Virgin myself :-( I explained and pleaded for help that I cannot get in touch . The agent said he would send a WhatsApp message to a contact he had at Virgin and we would have to wait. I gave it 10 mins :D and chased him up, he had received a reply which said the person who was originally dealing with it was not in till 1pm >-( I tried the other airlines and no seats available.After more pleading and Coffee and Cake for the 4 staff members this seemed to move it on and he received a reply and all was sorted. Fantastic, another scare pre boarding when the boarding cards they issued us kept being rejected. We where told to stand to one side as everyone else boarded and a manager came to resolve it. Never been so happy to get on a flight.
We were checked right through to LHR but on arrival into JNB I thought I would check with the Virgin staff everything was okay as I didn’t want any last minute issues at the gate. Check in was really busy and our tickets were checked and given thumbs up at the ticket desk. Unfortunately their were a lot of people at the ticket desk who had like myself not been able to make contact with Virgin and had obviously panicked on hearing this was the last flight out and just turned up hoping/expecting to get on the flight. A lot of shouting and abuse was being directed at the staff as their where no seats available.
So onto the flight. Great feeling to get onboard, was supposed to be in PE but was more than happy in Economy Delight which I thought was a good product , just good to be going home in any seat.
Usual good standard flight home, Heathrow relativity quiet but busier than I thought it would be , bit of a wait at Passport Control more down to everyone having to stand 2m apart.
To sum up you don’t need me to say we are in unprecedented times and the travel industry is taking a major hit in this, airline and travel staff are obviously inundated with stranded travellers. For me though I would like to have had some sort of resolve with my cancellation email such as a new flight date or we will confirm a new flight for you in the next 24 hrs etc. If you know what the plans for you are you can accept this and stop stressing rather than being left in a very vulnerable position.
The airlines are uncontactable and the travel insurance company send you back to the airline . >-(
Anyway, all now resolved as sitting back at home. A big thank you to VFlyer and those that have made comments etc, believe me it is a great help
For anyone still stranded best of luck to you and don’t forget to check your app if you don’t use it.
#955281 by hiljil
26 Mar 2020, 20:31
Welcome home Martin5192 ! Pleased you finally made it.

Hope you can relax looking at some beautiful wedding photos :-D .
#955282 by Traveller2
26 Mar 2020, 20:57
Oh my goodness! Thankfully you are now home but what a worry and what a task!

South Africa is wonderful isn't it? I've been quite a few times. It's somewhere I never tire of visiting and always feel as if I've "come home" on the drive from Cape Town airport into the city.
#955286 by TimCrawley
27 Mar 2020, 09:13
Thanks a lot for posting in detail how you got on - incredibly lucky you had the presence of mind in all that to spot info on the app - absolutely delighted your persistence paid off and you're home safe!
#955288 by honey lamb
27 Mar 2020, 10:47
Glad you made it back. I was doing it in reverse and was supposed to go to South Africa for my brother's significant birthday and was due to fly out the day after Ramaphosa closed the borders so had to cancel. My problem was that I had booked with Expedia and although the other airlines connected with my booking had made contact there was none from VS and when they replied to my SMS it was to redirect me back to Expedia. I had tried to contact Expedia to cancel my flight but when I finally got through, the call dropped before the cancellation was completed! The day after I was due to travel I received an email from Expedia saying that VS had cancelled my flights. Looking at the notification, I realised it had been cancelled because I hadn't taken my first flight to LHR. Today I received an email from Expedia saying I would be receiving airline credits for my flights! Phew!
#955290 by gumshoe
27 Mar 2020, 10:53
Remember you DO NOT have to accept future flight credits in lieu of a proper refund, if you don’t want them.

The EC has made it crystal clear that airlines must still reimburse passengers if that’s what they want.

Sadly, as you’ve found out, many airlines and travel agents seem to be doing all they can to avoid paying out and are passing the buck back and forth.
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