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i think the new aircraft is lovely, cant wait to see inside it. and the ife does sound better than alot of stuff thats out there already, flying on the same route! lets remember we are flying the orlando route and virgin isn't or ever will be emirates, singapore or cathay, they are in a far different league, and i dont really want to work for them!
i think we do, what we do, well!

Every one is saying whats on it whats missing. Did any of you notice the April fools day prank Virgin pulled.Just to let you all know The AC had a french name Yesterday Today Its Beauty Queen. A simple Donkey spotted it eating his waffles.Simple answer if you dont like whats on it dont go on

What? ?|

Could it be you are talking about the other A330 that VS have which is called Mademoiselle Rouge?

Looks like VS might be so embarrassed about the underwhelming new offer that they are trying to keep it quiet.

About the only press report is this

Note the fantastic large screens in PE :0

You may be well be right Tinkerbell but on Fridays traffic movements it stated on VS75 LGW - MAN VSSKY This french named plane. Have VA taken delivery of the 2nd A330 yet

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You may be well be right Tinkerbell but on Fridays traffic movements it stated on VS75 LGW - MAN VSSKY This french named plane. Have VA taken delivery of the 2nd A330 yet

There isn't a plane with a reg VSSKY. However VKSS is Mademoiselle Rouge as Tinks has already said

StillRedHot wrote:
What sort of thing would you like to see on board
Perhaps this.

But here is my wish list!

Whilst I can appreciate why business people would want to use the internet and phones on planes, I kinda like the fact that you can't. It means for the duration of the journey you can escape all of that. Plus, it's quite irritating when you travel by train and there are mobiles going off all over the place.

Whilst I can appreciate why business people would want to use the internet and phones on planes, I kinda like the fact that you can't. It means for the duration of the journey you can escape all of that. Plus, it's quite irritating when you travel by train and there are mobiles going off all over the place.

I suspect a poll here would result in a very strong "no" to in flight telephony. However in flight internet access is fantastic - for this person who tends to work for most of the duration of a flight, an absolute boon. But also for Facebook, email, V-Flyer even. I get the sense that it is popular on VX, when I've flown transcon on them. So if VS can introduce - I for one will be very pleased.

I think I've come to the conclusion that someone will always have something to moan about.. I think judgement should be made when you've used it or seen it in action and not before.

You may be well be right Tinkerbell but on Fridays traffic movements it stated on VS75 LGW - MAN VSSKY This french named plane. Have VA taken delivery of the 2nd A330 yet

Yes - 2 A330's have been delivered to VS.

lets remember we are flying the orlando route and virgin isn't or ever will be emirates, singapore or cathay, they are in a far different league, and i dont really want to work for them!
i think we do, what we do, well!

For me this is exactly what is wrong with VS. Once upon a time they used to be on a par with, if not pushing to be better than the carriers mentioned above as an innovative, forward thinking and dynamic airline. Nowadays they're being compared unfavorably with the likes of Delta.

johnvscrew wrote:
lets remember we are flying the orlando route and virgin isn't or ever will be emirates, singapore or cathay, they are in a far different league, and i dont really want to work for them!
i think we do, what we do, well!

For me this is exactly what is wrong with VS. Once upon a time they used to be on a par with, if not pushing to be better than the carriers mentioned above as an innovative, forward thinking and dynamic airline. Nowadays they're being compared unfavorably with the likes of Delta.

Exactly. VS may not be in direct competition on the MCO route, but as an airline they fly to both Emirates and Cathays main hubs.
I don't think it's a case of people moaning for moaning's sake, 99% of us here love VS for the brand, but get frustrated when we see other carriers which do some things better, and offer things that we'd like VS to incorporate into their offer.
A brand spanking new plane with new IFE is the perfect opportunity!

Matt

As the IFE and all screens have to be switched off for take-off and landing you wouldn't be able to watch any external camera views anyway. We have to follow CAA safety rules whereas some foreign carriers are allowed to keep their IFE on for take-off and landing.

Apart from Thomas Cook A330's who do keep their cameras on during take off and landing so nothing to do with CAA

As the IFE and all screens have to be switched off for take-off and landing you wouldn't be able to watch any external camera views anyway. We have to follow CAA safety rules whereas some foreign carriers are allowed to keep their IFE on for take-off and landing.

I don't know about the CAA rules, but I suspect that's not the case as voyagerweb says. What I do know is that VS cabin crew do have the most diligent and comprehensive saftey regime of any airline that I have flown - which can only be a good thing.

The important point however is that this should not be used as an excuse not to innovate. That's where they used to be sooo good and as many of us now find, they are compared to the also-rans, not the leaders.

Looks like VS might be so embarrassed about the underwhelming new offer that they are trying to keep it quiet.

About the only press report is this

Note the fantastic large screens in PE :0

must be the angle of the photo, or an out of date picture, the ones from yesterday on VS facebook page show a much larger PE screen

Some very good points made. Its just really nice to see a new aircraft fly from Manchester and not Gatwick/Heathrow. There is life at other airports, Like Bimingham,Bristol etc. I prefer a quiet airport, if possible, its more friendly. Do you think they may fly out of Birmingham now they have the 300 series, Not daily but maybe twice a week in summer. ?|

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Looks like VS might be so embarrassed about the underwhelming new offer that they are trying to keep it quiet.

About the only press report is this

Note the fantastic large screens in PE :0

must be the angle of the photo, or an out of date picture, the ones from yesterday on VS facebook page show a much larger PE screen

This photo on Facebook gives you a better sense of the actual screen size in PE which does look wider and maybe slightly taller than then current V:Port screen.

I think it's more than whether they've got a bit of a gimmick like cameras on take off/landing, it's about innovation in on board product, food and service.

Air NZ has been held up as a shining example of this.

Sorry to make a spelling mistake I am not stupid and I know what was on the movements for the 1st April It was VSXY Doing flight 075 GAT-MAN.MADEMOISELLE ROUGE.Dont have a pop at me Honeylamb if Virgin cant get it right.

I dont think honeylamb was having a pop, just correcting the error you saw

I think I've come to the conclusion that someone will always have something to moan about.. I think judgement should be made when you've used it or seen it in action and not before.

With all due respect you have clearly missed the reason why the vast majority of people are members of this board if you think we "moan". I think I can speak for the vast majority, having been a member for a number of years, when I say that we are here because we love what VS once was. We have all become incredibly disillusioned by what is being offered today especially when you look at the leaps and bounds other airlines are making. Times have changed in the industry, yes its tougher economically but equally one can now board a LCC and be offered a TV to watch! I was one who would only ever fly VS long haul, however because of a variety of reasons I am now looking at other airlines. You know something has gone very wrong when DL becomes a viable alternative!

Yes the new IFE will be an improvement however compared to the likes of Emirates, Singapore, Air New Zealand, Oman Air et al the new offering is no improvement at all. As a staff member you maybe happy with VS just playing catch up to the rest but as loyal passengers, whose loyalty has been established because VS was a market leader, we are not. It is not moaning, it is more us vocally coming to the realisation that VS is nowhere near the airline it once was but we are still continually told by the VS PR machine that it is!

Others mention that you cannot compare VS with EK or SQ. That is a fair point however NZ is pretty much a like for like comparison when comparing their long haul network to that of VS. They serve roughly the same number of destinations long haul and up until 8 years ago where on a par. IIRC NZ head office staff realised when they launched their PE seat that passengers expected a better food offering than those in Y were receiving. Their response was to give PE passengers pretty much the same food as J recieved. The VS response to similar criticisms was to do nothing for years and year, just to ignore the issue until very recently. There is no reason why VS cannot be a market leader like NZ is, no reason at all.

I guess we turn the IFE off for take-off and landing just in case there was an electrical fire - we wouldn't really be able to do much whilst strapped into our jump-seats!

I guess we turn the IFE off for take-off and landing just in case there was an electrical fire - we wouldn't really be able to do much whilst strapped into our jump-seats!

Hi VB - it may well be, but then again loads of airlines around the world, including Virgin America, keep the IFE on from the moment you board until the moment you leave. Many also have cameras to show take off and landing.

I believe Thomas Cook gets out of the CAA regs because really its a German airline. I understand that our CAA is completely up its own a*** about regs, a bit like the Health and Safety Authority (staffed by people who wouldn't let your children go to the park).

We live in an over regulated country, where common sense and customer service is weighed down by bureacracy and rules. I believe watching IFE or cameras on take off and landing is but one of myriads of examples of that.

Don't think we can get away with saying it's because German airlines are not under CAA.

Is it not now JAA and JARs!

Something to do with being part of Europe

Don't think we can get away with saying it's because German airlines are not under CAA.

Is it not now JAA and JARs!

Something to do with being part of Europe

Thanks Bill, that helps me get better ed'ed!