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#815410 by ratechaser
30 Jun 2012, 06:00
preiffer wrote:100 is one of the magic numbers, but they do not *necessarily* go hand in hand...


I always find it faintly hilarious how so many organisations shroud an elite upper membership tier in mystery in an attempt to make it more desirable. Which isn't to say that it doesn't work - clearly it does.

But do VS make UNIQs sign some sort of NDA then to keep the lid on the details? Or is there a collective sense that it's just not the done thing to talk about it to the lower ranks?

Actually, I guess you may not be able to answer that one!

I do share the general curiosity about what baubles get added at 'around' the 100TP level, but as I've mentioned before, divorce is the only 'benefit' I'd get from flying that much in a year, so happy to stay within the AU ranks for now!
#815412 by slinky09
30 Jun 2012, 07:39
Even if you reach the level, there's no actual guide as to how it is achieved or how to retain it other than some very simple information. The number quoted above does not also appear to garner automatic membership and some other factors appear to be taken into account, such as Penny's comment. So I'm not being deliberately obstructive, I just don't know.

What I can say, is that VS can and do look after some of their most frequent fliers very well indeed.
#815413 by at240
30 Jun 2012, 10:00
I can't believe that VS make UNIQs sign an NDA!

Based on that assumption, I think it is a pity that those in the know won't reveal more. If you go to the BAEC flyertalk board you learn all about Premiers, CCR cards, GGL etc, and I don't think that knowing about them in any way dilutes the prestige -- if anything, it just makes you think that 'wouldn't it be nice' if someday you could reach those exalted heights!
#815418 by Penny_L
30 Jun 2012, 11:08
but UNIQ is by invitation only, so even if you reach 100+ theres still no guarantee the powers that be will send you an invite to the club.
try googling, theres some interesting Leveson statements
#815419 by preiffer
30 Jun 2012, 11:21
Look at it a different way...
Is someone who earns 150TP's on partner airlines, or purely on low-bucket Z sale fares to Boston as valuable to the airline as someone who flies on full J's every month, but only enough to earn (say) 102TP's?

So from the airline's perspective, they can't *really* put a number on it. The generally accepted standard, however, is that once your account is above 100 you start to get their attention.
#815420 by at240
30 Jun 2012, 11:27
Penny_L wrote:but UNIQ is by invitation only, so even if you reach 100+ theres still no guarantee the powers that be will send you an invite to the club.
try googling, theres some interesting Leveson statements


I was talking about the benefits, not the qualification criteria!

Thanks for the tip -- interesting stuff...
#815421 by Smid
30 Jun 2012, 12:10
ratechaser wrote:I always find it faintly hilarious how so many organisations shroud an elite upper membership tier in mystery in an attempt to make it more desirable. Which isn't to say that it doesn't work - clearly it does.


There's has to be some sort of 'Fight club/Don't talk about it', because you'd might know what the benefits are. At the moment, its no more than 'I am a UNIQ passenger'. No more miles? Perhaps a upgrade priority (If you are ever in a class lower than UC)?
#815424 by Neil
30 Jun 2012, 12:21
Smid wrote:
ratechaser wrote:I always find it faintly hilarious how so many organisations shroud an elite upper membership tier in mystery in an attempt to make it more desirable. Which isn't to say that it doesn't work - clearly it does.


There's has to be some sort of 'Fight club/Don't talk about it', because you'd might know what the benefits are. At the moment, its no more than 'I am a UNIQ passenger'. No more miles? Perhaps a upgrade priority (If you are ever in a class lower than UC)?


Maybe it varies based on the individual, so what one person might get could be totally different to another? I honestly don't know, but I would have thought one of the perks of being a UNIQ is a more personalized and tailored level of service and benefit, which is obviously unique to every person.
#815442 by mpb91
30 Jun 2012, 16:40
Hi all,

I think we might be getting confused between the 'Top Flyers' and 'Uniq' schemes. I do believe you can become a Top Flyer by invitation only as previously stated and that is related to your tier points but i'm fairly certain (forgive me if I am wrong) that your tier points have no relation to you being Uniq and thus are unable to accrue so many tier points to reach such a status. I know their are a few Top Flyers here who may be in the know and can add or tidy up to my point.

Kind Regards.
#815443 by slinky09
30 Jun 2012, 16:50
mpb91 wrote:I think we might be getting confused between the 'Top Flyers' and 'Uniq' schemes


What used to be called GBTops are now UNIQ's - and TPs definitely are one way of determining if you become a UNIQ. But not the only as preiffer said earlier.

Note there are UNIQ's who are top fliers, VIPs, CIPs, and FORs that I am aware of, four different categories, maybe another one I've forgotten.

Neil wrote:one of the perks of being a UNIQ is a more personalized and tailored level of service and benefit, which is obviously unique to every person


I think you sum that up well Neil, there are few to no stated benefits, but yes, what you say is correct.

Smid wrote:There's has to be some sort of 'Fight club/Don't talk about it', because you'd might know what the benefits are.


There's no NDA, no restriction on talking about it, no anything, there's also no guidebook and no listed benefits either so no one here who may be is concealing anything. You sort of find your way through it, and asking for favours sometimes works, but not for upgrades (just as it should be).

Ratechaser wrote:Rumour has it, access to a pen in UC and special menu involving salad items with a savoury sauce....


Ahh not even that, but you can make your voice heard about cherry tomatoes and gravy :0 .
#815450 by tontybear
30 Jun 2012, 18:28
And I know of someone who is UNIQ but who does not collect TPs so VS kobviously have ways of monitoring frequent fliers other than via an FC account.

And even wihin the UNIQ scheme there are different types.
#815472 by slinky09
01 Jul 2012, 09:07
ratechaser wrote:
slinky09 wrote:Ahh not even that, but you can make your voice heard about cherry tomatoes and gravy :0 .


But sadly not, it would seem, about the design of the new UCS...


The design team know my thoughts, whether they will listen is another thing!
#815554 by Martin
02 Jul 2012, 11:54
Slightly off topic ...

For those of us who can only dream about UNIQ-ness, but do get to 50 TP. Is there some mild recognition for that? I recall reading something on here something about Clubhouse invites.
#815559 by joeyc
02 Jul 2012, 13:24
Martin wrote:Slightly off topic ...

For those of us who can only dream about UNIQ-ness, but do get to 50 TP. Is there some mild recognition for that? I recall reading something on here something about Clubhouse invites.


Afraid not, it's 60 that we get one of those elusive clubhouse invites. :(! Who thinks that is fair for that level of loyalty ?|
#815562 by tontybear
02 Jul 2012, 14:02
joeyc wrote:[

Afraid not, it's 60 that we get one of those elusive clubhouse invites. :(! Who thinks that is fair for that level of loyalty ?|


60 TPs = 6 round trips in UC (based on 5 per leg) does that make someone a really frequent flyer? - it's not even once a month.

Mind earning 60 TPs in Y takes 15 flights which is pretty good going if you ask me.
#815564 by easygoingeezer
02 Jul 2012, 14:42
I would love to know how its done just out of geekiness ( my own ). I love to hear about people attaining things.

Alas the only person whome has mentioned they are uniq that I know of is a complete midland banker so I would rather eat my own sick than ask how he got there.
#815565 by at240
02 Jul 2012, 14:45
tontybear wrote:60 TPs = 6 round trips in UC (based on 5 per leg) does that make someone a really frequent flyer? - it's not even once a month.

It doesn't sound much if you put it like that -- but NB that this is the level at which you would move from silver to gold in the BAEC, and quite a few nice things happen to you at that point. :)
#815575 by joeyc
02 Jul 2012, 15:49
tontybear wrote:
joeyc wrote:[

Afraid not, it's 60 that we get one of those elusive clubhouse invites. :(! Who thinks that is fair for that level of loyalty ?|


60 TPs = 6 round trips in UC (based on 5 per leg) does that make someone a really frequent flyer? - it's not even once a month.


Didn’t say really frequent flyer – “level of loyalty”.. 60TPs = 6 round trips in UC non flex ticket.. 6 x Z class tickets to NYC = £9489.54 (current sale price) £9489.54 = 4768 McDonald’s happy meals (for a bit of fun). With someone spending nearly £10,000 (would be nearer £14,000 with non sale prices) by loyally chosing the same carrier I think VS should offer a little more than a single clubhouse invite (shelf price £60) upon reaching that milestone....

Or are you saying the tier point system should work on the number of flights that you take with VS as opposed to how much you spend? Interesting thought that, although I feel some might cry foul, myself included, if everyone got the same tier points regardless of class of travel. :?

tontybear wrote:Mind earning 60 TPs in Y takes 15 flights which is pretty good going if you ask me.


Yep hats off to those guys and girls - they would def deserve the clubhouse invite, maybe more than one?? y)

Anyways kind of stealing this thread, so if it would be beneficial to strike up a fresh topic on what people think about how the tier point system currently works and whether or not there is another way to work it, also maybe how it compares to other programs I am sure the mods can do some fancy cut and pasting ii) oo)
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